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Industrial Schools "Bill , providing schools for young vagrants and other children who have made themselves amenable to the law . A good measure , but this , in common with all private bills , will stand suspended , if not ' th . ro wn , i feack ^ by Ike general election . . Government has p laced itself in a eontemptillc position towards Sir John M'Neill and Coloael Tui / loch . At last it lias bcoa , thouglit fit tiat lord Pa . n-m . uiie shoj ^ acki « wdftdge the serdjeffof those gentlemen on the Crimean inquiry , which he has donewith an ample apology for not having
, made tlie acknowledgment sooner than eighteen months after date . But even this tardy recognition is quite spoiled : Lord Pa ^ muue adds to acknowledgment and thanks , 1000 / . for each , of the Commi ss i oners , as remuneration and token of the value of the services rendered . If so , replies Sir John M'Neil . l , 1000 / . must be considered token of the value and pecuniary equivalent ; so that rating the token , of value at 1000 / ., the equivalent of the service rendered is 0 . Sir John has returned the 1000 / ., "being better pleased to be repaid with the public tlianks , pure and simple . Colonel Tulloch
is understood to have done the same . It is advantageous for Ministers that , just on . the point of the dissolution , intelligence has been received that the Persian difficulty is settled . A treaty has been , signed by Perouk Kua .: n , . subject , liowcvcr , to the reconsideration of the Shah . Austria has made a direct attack upon Sardinia , on the pretext that the Piedmontese press attacks the Emperor and the institutions of Austria , misrepresenting tbc true royalty of the Lombardo-Venetians , and preaching regicide . Count Ca .: voub ,
replies , that if the Lombardo-Venetian royalty is praoticaHy influenced by a press whick the Austrian Government excludes iVom its territories , what influence can that press exercise ? He represents that the press is ¦ free ; but that any party which is libelled , including any foreig-n Government , can appeal for justice in the Piedmontese courts . Piedmont , in fact , declines to surrender her free press , because it is inconvenient to her despotic neighbour . But the press is only a pretext : Austria means mischief .
At Lome a new turn has been given to the emigration movement by a letter in the Times from Mr . G . J . HoLYOAKE . There is no man more intimately acquainted with the working classes than he is , no one who- brings a more completely philosophic view to the consideration of their movements . He suggests , in lieu of the emigration over the sea , the perils of which we have pointed out , home colonization on the plan proposed by Rowland Hill yteai's ago . "What is the plan ? Mr . Holtoajoe should republish it . Oace more , . by the proceedings in the courts of justice and other public movements , the rampant Jfraiul of Paris , London , and New York , is brought to light . We have it in many aspects . The repudiation by an American railway company of
Sciitjyxeu ' s shares ; the Bank frauds of Smvard and his associates ; Hedpatk's frauds newly commented ; and the Royal British Bank , which is in a peculiar . hobblo . The depositors have , with the exception of a small minority , agreed to take 15 s . in the pound . Frightened at unlimited liability , tlic shareholders have dispersed . Som £ of them who possess the power would make up the fund for a compromise , if it were accepted ; but at the meeting of depositors , thirteen depositors dissented , and it will require an Act of Parliament to make the agreement of the majority binding on the minority . So that the depositors of the Itoyju British 33 : mk who wish thear 15 s . in the pound , may go hunt for it at the general election .
Iho Grout Northern Directors publish their version of Redpatu ' s frauds . It seems ( hat he was appointed , in . pursuance of ' savings , ' over the head of an honest gentleman , on the strcnfflli of his ' apparent * propriety . The Directors got a ' cheap ' o ^ wt ' w ! ' / ' P , d tllc rcault is ' " ot onl T tklt they lose 220 , 0 KM . —the amount of the false shares Avln ' ch ho mamttiujfcurcd—but that tho addition to the capital is counter to law , insomuch that they have no power to pay ( lividciids on any part of their capital without tm Act , of Parliament . —And so they tell the poor shareholders on the evo of a general election ! n < , iVf S , ' ™ cvcr » thftt wo W . tho grandest aspect ol iraud . The exposure of tho fraudulent 3 SLS 5 * i M * . " ^ b » , » Govermnrnt SSI « T £ COmA ^ « vt the fr , « ,. U and bin defence is that Ins superiors , tho Ministers of the ISnoporor , swttttioncd his conuivanco
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Jllondag , March 2 nd . THE CHIX . E 6 E WAR . In + } m Hbuaa of Lobks ^ .. m answer . tof- Harl Guet , Earl Gjbauvxlue said he-was able to state-from the Intel licence received from GMna ^ that no further operations had taken pjaee , except , those rendered necessary for self-ctefence axtdi the security of their ships . Tha-. GMnese servants h « & been rec&JSwJ from . Hong-Kcm ® ,. and the Chinese ltt |* r offered rewwrds for-the perpetration of acts of incendiarism and assassination in that . colon } --. It
was impossible to say , therefo r e , that there was a termination of the war , btut at the' same time , thane was > no < interruption of their commercial relations with tie other four ports . Under thpso circumstances , it was impossible there could be any change in the condition of Canton , beca u s e he be K eved it was absolu t el y necessary for the security of the lives and property , not onl y of B ri t ish subjects , bu t of forei g ner s of other na t ions , tha t the y should n ot appea r to recede , as dangerous results mig ht follow , not onl y the r e , t ut in t he o t her four ports , where our relations are maintained on . a satisfactory basis . Reinforcements had been sent to Sir John Bowring : one regiment went three weeks previouslv .
Lorchajtei'be- English , t he re v enge t aken for the C hi n ese insult- * vaa excessive . Sir Jolm Bowring , also ,.-was compromised , im another way . He had been charged by the STtemgjhai Chamber of Commerce with having deliberately ; misrepresented the instructions he had received fron * the Foreign Office , thereby obtaining the consent of the : ra « rcbants there to an arrangement to which they womW : not otherwise have agreed . With rega rd to A dmiral S eymour , he thought he -would hare acted betteE-haji he held a restraining hand , and not have ateasun- himself so ready and willing an agent of Sir John Bawring . The latter evidently desired to get into
Canton ; but it should be recollected that successive Governments had * distinctly forbidden the enforcement of our claim by arms without the consent of the homo authorities . —Mr . Collier opposed the motion , believing that the law was on the side of the . Government ; - If the House affirmed the resolution , it would amount to an admission that -we had been in the wrong from the beg inning ; the Chinese Government would be entitled to reparation , and would demand an abject apology . By negativing the resolution , the House would only affirm t hat , when a treaty i s violated and the E ng lish fla " insulted , we are bound to exact redress and reparation .
Sir Frederick Thesiger replied to the argument of the Attorney-General , who had contended that tlie question of the nationality of the lorcha depended not upon the ordinance , but upo n the supplemental trea t y of 1843 . He ( Sir Frederick ) , on the contrary , maintained , from the very terms of the treaty , that it had nothing whatever to do with the question ; that the proposition of the Attorney-General ought to be reversed ; and t ha t reliance must fre placed upon the ordinance , and not upon the treaty . A register granted under the colonial ordinance , itself of doubtful legality , could givenori"ht
as against Chinese authority . Over and above the legal question , there was ' the question of humanity . A few reprisals should have been sufficient to satisfy our honour . A s it was , the papers before the House would remain a listing monument of the bad faith of England . —Sir William Williams ( of Kars ) thought that tlie insult offered to our flag was intentional , and observed that the fertile source of the hreaeh of treaties by Eastern nations was the fact of their disjoining themselves from the great family of mankind . 'For this they rightly suffered .
Mr . Sidsey Herbert accepted the challenge to discuss the matter upon broad and , general grounds . H e w ould s t ate shortly his op inion upon the question at issue . He agreed with Sir John Bowring that the lorcha was not an English vessel ; he agreed with Mr . K enned y that he w as onl y the nominal master of the l orcha , and that she was owned "by a Chinese '; ho agreed with Mr . Brook , of the Board of Trade , that the ordinance was an illegal one ; he agreed with Mr . Bridges , the Attorney-General at Hong-Kong , that the alleged English subjects were not English subjects at all ; lie agreed with Mr . Parkes , that the retribution was more than the occasion required ; and he agreed with her Majesty ' s Attorney-General in the opinion that the law arguments upon the subject of the ordinance
brought forward by the Lord Advocate , the H o m e Secretary , and the Lord Chancellor , wero perfectly immaterial . ' ( Jjuzujhto ' . ) Sir John Bowring , having got together a fleet , thought " circumstances were . auspicious" for requiring the fulfilment of the article of the treat y s t i pulating for access to Canton , and , in spite of repeated prohibitions from home , demanded tlic immediate concession of a claim which had been suspended so many years . It had been said that all these transactions had had the general concurrence of Sir Michael Seymour . But how was it obtained ? By false pretences employed by Sir John Bowring , who had made a digingenuous use of despatches from home , and suppressed a portion of one which intimated that tlic Government was not disposed to go to war with tho Chinese .
Mr . Serjeant Siikk contended that , if tlie doctrine laid do w n b y the Earl of Derby and Lord Lyiulhurst \ vas to prevail , the treaty of 1842 , on which tlie colony of Hong-Kong was founded , and tho nmvngcnients completed -with China , would become a dead letter . Without going at any length into tho merits of tho question , he referred to tho Act of Parliament to show that amo n gs t t he pe r sons c o nsidered to be K ng lish subjects are tho inhabitants of any territory ceded to lier Ma-C 3 ty . Therefore , to all inte n ts and purposes , the persona resident at Hong-Kong -were to bo considered English subjects , and consequently the lorclw limsL be considered an English vessel . ( Cries of " . DirUh . '" ) On tho motion of Mr . Kounijei . l Palmkk , the dcb . itc was adjourned , on tlio understanding that it should be concluded on tltc following night . THE SAI . U OK OT > IUJr .
Mr . Munnotrcm moved for returns connected with the opium trade in the Presidency of Bengal , and the trattic with China during tho years 18 o 5 and l . SOtJ . Hi : alluded to the horrors of tho op ium tr ade , mid altvibuK'il to it tlic present dispute with Canton .- —The motion was ftgToed to . Tho Lionnxa oi' Towns ( Iuklanu ) Act Ami . ndsiknt ISii / ij was rend a third time , and passed , and l '' House shortl y afterwards adjourned . Tuesday , March iird . MATRTMONIAI , AN 1 > KIVOHOK OA UflRS 1 UTXIn tho Hou . sk ok Lohixs , thb Loud Ouancki . i ok moved the yecond reading of this bill . —Lord Lvsi'
-THE E A R L OP DBKEY A ND THE " PRESS " NEWSPAPER . The Earl of Derby , in reference to a report in the Press of last Saturday , said : — " I do not know ,.-my lords , tha t I oug ht to trouble you on a matter which is personal to myself , b e cause it is one of the rules I ha v e laid down for myself never to notice any misstatements or misrepresentations in the public press of any part of my public conduct ; and if I depart from that rule on t he p r ese n t occasion , it is onl y from a se n se of justice , not so much to mvself as to others , that I . feel it
necessary to do so . I refer to a report in a , public newspaper , which was- ' -wholly unauthorized , and which could only have been surreptitiously obtained , of a meeting said to have t aken p l a ce at m y house , which certainly did t ake place , but not at r ay house , and which , althoug h it bears on the face of it marks of having been furnished by some perso n who w as present , or by some one who heard what passed on that occasion , is grossly inaccurate , for i t s t ates not only what I did not say , but the reverse of what I said . "
After some formal business , their Lordship s ad journed .
NEW INDIAN LOAN \ In the House of Commons , in answer to Mr . ' Otway , Mr . Vernon Smith said that by the mail delivered that morning he had heard of the New Five per Cent . loan . It was for 3 , 000 , 000 ? ., limited to fifteen years , and was app licable t o g eneral purposes . No instructions had been sent from the Home Government on the subject , and there had been no departure from the usual practice .
GUANO . Mr . Evelyn Denison wished to put a question to the Colonial Secretary respecting the guano islands on the coast of Africa . He wished to know whether any arrangement had been made-with the Liverpool merchants , which , while securing to them full and fair powers for collecting-, would give to English agriculturists the benefit of the supply of that useful article . — -Mr . Labouciierk said that , since he last addressed the House o n t he subject , the merchants h aving the exclusive license had been to him and stated their readiness to allow any bod y to take guano upon payment of a royalty of 11 . per ton . CHINA . ADJOURNED DEBATE . Tho adjourned debate on Mr . Cobden ' s motion was r es u med b y Mr . Kohrrt Phillimore , who disputed the validity of the Arrow's register , and denied that she carried an English flag at the time of her being boarded . She was not English in the sense of the treaty , and , moreo v e r , the rules of that treaty were not laid down in accordance with international law . But , assuming tha t the English authorities were right in regard to the v essel , tho legal course of proceedings was by reprisals , by seizing property in pled ge , and not by so murderous an attack upon a commercial community . Commissioner " Yc-h hud repeatedly disavowed any inten t ion to nitront the English flag ; consequently , there was no excuse for such extreme measures .
Sir ( iicoRGE Grky defended the Bishops in tho exercise of an independent judgment ; accused Mr . Cobden of suppressing an important part of Mr . Cook ' s le tt er , which lie had quoted in the cotirse of his speech ; and pointed out that Dr . Bowring , wlio had been appointed by tho Aberdeen Ministry , of which Lord John Russell and Sir Jainoa Graham - \ vcro members , had been den on n ceu b y his quondam colleagues , w hils t i t s e rved their purpose to extol Admiral Seymour—the truth boiii £ that Admiral Seymour wna an approving party to everything that had occurred . Members ought to decide the question irrespective of visions of a new Government , and entirely upon its merits . —Mr . Patimcic Uohkhtron , from personal experience , spoke of tlie Chinese as being n raco of barbarians , and disputed tho fluttering character given of thorn by Mr . Cobden .
Sir Jons ' Paicinoton regretted that tho Government had not disavowed the acts of its agents in China ; the doctrine that thoy ought invnriably to lie supported at nlMinzarda being false and bad . Even assuming tho
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IJIPEEIIL PARLIAMENT . . ¦ ——?—
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Leader (1850-1860), March 7, 1857, page 218, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2183/page/2/
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