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Admiralty at the time to which the alleged misappropriation deferred , said that the Admiralty had determined that the propeller in use in the navy is not the specific invention of any one patentee . He had therefore paid the money voted to all the patentees in a body ; but at that time he had not heard of any claim on the part of Captain Carpenter . If that officer , however , felt aggrieved , the law courts were open to him . — Mr . Keatin g , in supporting the motion , denied that Captain Carpenter could recover any t of lawand Admiral
portion of the 2 O , O 00 Z . in « cour ; Walcott said he had Captain Carpenter ' s authority for stating that before the decision of the Admiralty he had placed in their hands a memorial setting forth his claim . —Sir Frederick Thesiger opposed the motion , and said that the chief merit of the invention was due to Mr . Francis Pettit Smith . —The motion was further , opposed by Sir Chaeles Wood , Mr . Rice , and Mr . Drummond ; and was supported by Sir George Pechell , Mr . J . Phillimore , and Mr . Chambers . ' Upon a division , it was negatived by 69 to 49 . ¦ The Spirit Duties ( Excise ) Bill was read a third timeand passed
, . CHURCH RATES . On the motion of Mr . Evelyn Denison , on Wednesday , his Church-rates Abolition Bill was read a second time sub silentio . Sir Wilijam Clay , in moving the second reading of his Church-rates Abolition ( No . 2 ) Bill , explained its scope , character , and objects , and the provisions by which those objects were sought to be obtained . The bill , he said , entirely abolished church-rates , except where they were pledged for the liquidation of debts contracted on the security of the rates ; it
provided that churchwardens shall still have the entire charge of the funds requisite for the repair and maintenance of the fabric of the church , and for defraying the charges incident to the performance of divine service ( it being important to make as little change as possible in the existing system ) ; it empowered the churchwardens to receive voluntary contributions ; and it gave to parishes the power , if they thought fit , to allot pews and seats , and to apply the rents to the purposes for which church-rates are no \ v levied . Provision was also made for the
appointment of auditors by the vestry . Mr . Packe moved to defer the second reading for six months . He denied that the Church of England is nothing but a sect . The measure would undermine and destroy the Church by taking away one of its props ; and neither the Royal Commission nor the Committee of that House , which had inquired into the subject , had recommended the abolition of these rates . —This amendment was seconded by Mr . Lloyd Da vies , who observed that the burden of the rates , in the case of land , falls upon the landlord , not upon the tenant ; that land is bought or inherited upon the understanding that it is
subject to this charge ; and that , if the rates are abolished , the landlords will raise the rent . —Mr . Cowper said he felt compelled to vote for the amendment , because , although entirely opposed to church rates , he thought the scheme proposed by Sir Wm . Clay a bad one . The system of pew-rents was open to innumerable objections ; and should these rents fail , the machinery proposed for supplying the place of the rates would be destroyed . —Mr . Lushington opposed the bill , which was defended by Mr . Labouchere , who admitted , however , that the machinery was objectionable , but thought that this might be amended in committee . —Mr . E . Ball , also supported the bill .
, ..,., _ Lord Palmerston said ho quite agreed with those who think it desirable to come to a settlement of this question ; but he must oppose the present measure , because he did not think it contained arrangements for sustaining the fabric of churches . He was apprehensive that in some parishes there would not be found persons of sufficient religious feeling to induce them to find means for that purpose . He could not place the ancient churches of this country in the saino category with other places of religious worship , erected at less cost and more cheaply repaired . There arc two classes of expenses defrayed by church-rates Divine
—one relating to the celebration of worship ; the other , to the maintenance of the fabric of the Church . Conscientious scruples which apply to the one do not necessarily extend to the other ; and in many parishes Dissenters , acting upon enlarged views , have contributed to the sustentation of the fabric of the Church . If it were possiblo to devise some scheme for tho latter purpose which would not offer violonco to the conscience of those who differ from the Established Church , ho should bo most happy to concur in it ; but ho did not think this metuuro would attain tho object . Many suit ! Unit it was the duty of tho Government to propose a measure ; but it was very easy for gentlemen who cannot solve the enigma to call upon Government to discover the riddle . Former Administrations had failed in the measures they proposed ; anjtf tho existing Government had at present no proposal to make that would afford a satisfactory solution of the question .
Lord Seymour supported the bill ; and the second reading was carried by 217 to 189 . CARLISLE CANONRIES BILL . The second reading of this bill was carried by 102 to 98 , after meeting with some opposition from Mr . Cowper , who stated that a commission is now sitting on the subject , which will soon make its report . ASCENSION DAY . Thursday , being Ascension Day , the House of Lords did not meet . The Commons , however , were not equally scrupulous ; but they adjourned at an unusually early hour—ten o ' clock—and the business they transacted was very slight and unimportant .
PEACE NEGOTIATIONS * . AU 8 TRIA . Replying to Sir H . Willoughby , Lord Falmerston stated that some communications had lately passed between the Austrian Government and the Allied Powers respecting terms of peace , but in too informal a shape to be laid before Parliament .
PUBLIC PROSECUTORS BILL . The second reading of this bill was moved by Mr . J . G . Phillimore , who contended for the necessity of some change in the existing administration of the criminal law , which , he believed , favoured the rich at the expense of the poor , and exercised a mischievous influence over the moral feeling of the community . —Lord Palbierston admitted the great importance of the question ; but said that the Attorney-General intended to move for the appointment of a Select Committee to investigate the whole subject . The House , therefore , at his request , consented to postpone the second reading for six weeks .
NEW SOtTTH "WALES . Lord John Russell moved for leave to bring in two bills—the one to enable her Majesty to assent to a bill , as amended , of the legislature of New South Wales , to confer a constitution on New South Wales , and to grant a civil list to her Majesty ; the other , to repeal the acts of Parliament now in force respecting the disposal of the waste lands of the Crown in her Majesty ' s Australian colonies , and to make other provision in lieu thereof . The proposed constitution was similar to that of Victoria , except that it was proposed that the legislative council should consist of members nominated by the Crown . The second bill proposed to repeal the acts regarding waste lands as soon as one should be passed establishing a civil list .
Mr . Lowe strongly objected to the bills . The legislative councils , he said , had exceeded their authority in passing the bill which had reference to the constitution ; and , as a consequence , the act was void , and her Majesty ' s approval of it , if given , would be void also . The bill , moreover , having been amended , was not tho same as that sent home ; so that it did not represent the views of the legislative councils . Besides , it perpetuated an iniquitous electoral division of the colony , having reference , not to population , but to a geographical area ; and one third would be nominated
of the members of the council by the Crown . The nominative upper chamber was only a device of a clique to get that chamber exclusively into their own hands . Another objection to the bill lay in the enormous civil list fixed for the officers of the Crown . Mr . Lowe concluded by suggesting that the bills should be referred to a select committee , with Sir William Molesworth , as being best acquainted with colonial matters , at its head . If these bills passed , the bonds of union between the colony and the mother country would be weakened .
Lord John Russell said that the act of 1850 empowered tho legislative councils of Australia to frame for themselves constitutions , including a House of Representatives ; and now that the colony of New South Wales has had , besides this general sanction , a special intimation from the Secretary of State that tho Crown would receive with satisfaction a bill appointing a constitution , it would be very unfair to turn round and say , " We , the Imperial Government , will appoint a Select Coitimittco of the House of Commons to frame an entirely new constitution for
New South Wales . " A committee of that House , also , would have to spend so much time in collecting evidence , that legislation would be postponed for a year , which would bo u matter of deep disappointment to tho colony . If there was at present any doubt as to tho validity of the act , that might easily be remedied by inserting a clause declaring it to be valid . Replying to Mr . Lowe ' s objection , as to tho inequality of the representation , Lord John Russell remarked that the representation in this country is confessedly unequal , and that such an objection would invalidate all tho acts of New South Wales .
Tho principle of the nominated legislative council had been acted on in Canada and New Zealand . In tho cuso of Victoria , an elected council had been accorded , because it was preferred by tho people ; but tho preponderance in its favour in other colonies is not so grent as to justify us in preventing tho colonists from choosing for themselves .
Mr . Duffy and Mr . Williams concurred in Mr . Lowe ' s objections to the bills , which were defended by Mr . Baix . —Leave having been given to bring them in , they were read a first time , and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday , June 7 . PARISH CONSTABLES BILL . Mr . Deedes moved the second reading of this bill , the object of which is to render the present ' system of rural police more efficient by means of regular organisation . —The" measure was opposed by Mr . Rice , on the ground of the heavy local taxation it would impose ; and a rather wandering , though brief , discussion then ensued ; the chief feature in . which was Lord Palmerston ' s indignant denial of Mr . Mfles ' s assertion that the Government , by introducing the ticket-of-leave system , had let loose
a flood of crime on the country . Lord Palmerston explained that the Government had reluctantly introduced that system , but had been forced to adopt it by the complaints of the colonies whither criminals had hitherto been transported . He would not oppose the present measure , though he thought it imperfect , owing to the system proposed being too much that of a parish constabulary , and not containing sufficient powers for county centralisation . The bill was ultimately read a second time , and ordered to be committed on Tuesday , the 22 nd of May .
SEBASTOPOL COMMITTEE . Mr . Roebuck , brought up a report from the Committee of Inquiry into the State of the Army before Sebastopol . THE LAW OF PARTNERSHIP . In reply to a question from Mr . Moffatt , Mr . Bouverie said it was his intention to move on Friday , the 25 th instant , for leave to introduce three bills relating to the law of partnership ; and , if there were not time for him to make a statement , he should ask to be allowed simply to lay them on the table , in order that they might jbe printed for consideration during the recess . iiobhouse ' s act . In reply to a question from Mr . Henley , Sir Benjamin Hall said , according to the understandingwhich was come to , he was pledged to bring in a bill
as soon as the Metropolis Local Management Bill was passed , for the purpose of amending Hobhouse ' s Act ; but , if it were the wish of the House , he would , instead of pursuing that course , insert in the latter those clauses of Hobhouse ' s Act which were applicable to it , leaving Hobhouse ' s Act precisely as it stood , so far as the provinces were concerned . As , moreover , polling in large parishes or districts had been objected to , he begged to say that , if he found a strong feeling in the House in favour of polling in wards , he should not object to substitute that method of polling for the one which he had proposed .
THE BLACK . SEA FLEET . Sir Charles Wood , in answer to Mr . Otway , said that despatches had been received from Sir Edmund Lyons stating various occurrences by sea and land , but he was sorry to say that they contained nothing of great importance .
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THE SEBASTOPOL COMMITTEE . MONDAY . Sir James Graham , late First Lord of the Admiralty , was examined , and commenced by giving an account of the duties of the Board of Admiralty . All the details of the naval service wero transacted by the Board of Admiralty , without reference to any other department ; but when it was the Queen ' s pleasure that any particular movement of the ileet should be made , it was communicated to the board officially by tho Secretary of State . Tho First Lord sat at the board as a co-ordinato member , und as an integral part of it , and had no power apart from the board itself . Practically , he fouud that there was no division of opinion at the board , but that the members exorcised towards one another tho greatest
firmness and forbearance . When the war broke out , requisitions came in to the Admiralty from seven different quarters for ammunition ami stores , without any previous notice , and , finding that # re « t inconvenience accrued from this , ho recommended that it would bo better if these various requisitions wore referred to one common centre , and ho suggested to the Secretary at War that day by day they should bo fiatod and approved by him , and given to the chairman of the Iransport Hoard , and that lie should give hi * opinion on them and carry them into cflcct . He ( Sir Juntos CnUiain ) was of and ofsuch
opinion that tho introduction adoption - a system would bo productive of promptitude and order . The first approach towards this system of concentration was the placing of tho commissariat under the becretary at War in November , and referring tho requisitions of the medical board to the name department . Ho hold tho First Lord of tho Admiralty to bo responsible lor ovorytuintf >«> »»« department . With respect to the transports , ho stated ' that the deoiro of the Uovenimont was to employ steam conveyance as largely as posslblo , but that it was found impossible to get etoam transports
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Mat 19 , 1655- ] T H E Ii E A P E R . ^ 61
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Leader (1850-1860), May 19, 1855, page 461, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2091/page/5/
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