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It had . been signed by her Majesty ' s ambassador at Constantinople and by the French ambassador ; but inconsequence of an oversight at Paris , the French ambassador at Constantinople bad not fail powers to sign it * It was , therefore , signed by the French ambassador provisionally . The consequence was , that that document was not formally complete .
GOTEBNJIBNT DXPEA . TMinisters were defeated , on Monday , in attempting to force the second reading of the Settlement and Kemoval Bill upon the House . Out readers win remember that the debate was adjourned from Friday to Monday by a narrow majority . When the debate was resumed , on Monday , Xoid John Rubsmx ,, in reply to Mr . " WAUOs . K y said that Ministers were not prepared iio state their intentions with respect to Scotch , and Irish ; paupers ; and they did not look upon that as a reason for delaying the bill . However , when- the motion , for the second reading was put , Mr . Packs moved that the debate be a&jouroed until the 24 th of ApriL Mr . facke was supported by the whole strength of the opposition . Mr . Wai ^ oee ,
riahsts that , in the opinion © f the Cabinet , their wish ought to be complied with—this communication being made without Mr . B&ines being at all aware of it . He confessed that he felt somewhat-hurt and mortified , but a little reflection served to convince him that no intentional disrespect was meant ; and , if he had not arrived at that conclusioa r he should have known his- duty better than to base thrown up the important office he held at a time tike the pre ~ sent . Yet , he could not help feeling : that ! ho was placed in a situation of great dhUeuitpy more especially with regard to this measure . He had bad ! deputations inattir&wr his intentions as > tb the re-3
Bion . He agreed that no case had been made out for inquiry , and declared that he could not leevtttt would be gained thereby . A ^ for the stories about the convents , he did trot believe one word ; they wttfe of the cock and bulL kind—what the French < Sall hisfoirts du coq a T&ne—meaning by t&ne tiha person to whom the story is told . If he had to vote ne should Tote for the amendment . Colonel North told a . story and read at eorcfcnondettee * showing how one Miss Xitzatiacu 4 eekred to thw BanWy magistrate * that afee -was
confined in a home &e Ban-tony an * wa » about to fce 1 « ent to Belgium , and demanded assfofeaner , whieh j iine magistrates had no power to- grant . The- # o-1 , however , escaped . | It was now dinner time ,, and the debate ; -was ! wearily carried on- by Mr . DuoMitoKivnot aolaiop-: tiou&aausual ., Site . Cb «> ssij& ¥ , M * . ^ EWitf «>*« % Kr . Spooler , Colonel Bi » AHtr Mr , Paows , alJ fm t > e original atetiony G&ptaia B&vtJ&m and Mr * $ ob-; aawcoK sustaining , the amendment . ; Mr ^ iSaQMAs CHAMBHKaj characterising , tifevanienfljment as unprecedented , repeated son *© of bi # . jdild , argumenta la support of the motion ,, But slatqtf , iio cases in detaib . - \ -
, Mr , Osbormb rose At this stage , and mad * tag , speech of the evening . He waa : naK long ; fo ae ^ ting Tight at the subject . The motio ^ W , aj ^ P ^ ppd i formless ; and he coiitd easily knagine « n th « rpw *<) some gentlemen « de » in > t to indttt ^ thai * oi **>* i « 9 rat I ther expense of $ henunneries ^ - ^ m ^ i mM ^ Wlm ^ mQ ebj « et ofthe-motrowone ft > rn «|«{ i 7 ^ o ? wm * 1 &'&atdirect attack on trie Roman CathoSe wQigftto ^ ^ Ptb < trera its promoters ? No- dbuftt people witWriiiid wiilrout the walls of Parliament amprrfnak » tl faV ^ s ! favour ; biit Mr . Chambers had made h 1 ««^ t 6 e iBi-\ conscious instrament of a wkle-sprea £ or «*^ ibaItoIk th « Frote . Unt Alli . m * and thj ^ S ^^ feSSil
which aim at the repeal of theM ^» jm > otlijrwwrtj ? «* ttoe emelvwIoiioC ** Papist ** rosn fSH ^ mma ^ fmf 0 ^ places abroad and at lame * Tkat ft thrff aWfljftiii intention , exptmied in their resolatioas-. Wbat « d tl « H © ue » -think of that ? ¦; . ; - - ¦ ¦ ¦« ¦ ¦¦» . ¦ " ^ But he rtxooM like fa know oil what MjvCnanjfters tests hit ease . Where are the strong- Jrtg ^ rptt ? T&e case quoted by Colonel North he had fool ^ lkV and found that the ftdtese urno' nnffi nri nnirJ » iMp ? Wpib at all .. Miss EitzaUan ' s . name w ^ Haj ^ % j $ ^| ¦ h « rself out to be th * daughter rf . »» qj ) to Uwi ^ Wid him , who at the timeof &i » attaj ^ ftlfesMlfcipj * a * « Bly teny «* rso « age . She was aa nstpostoi . Yet tbesear « the » toriesbciiev ^ m fe ) y t )^ o « 4 sDtiy ^ f
Jbont ^ joqii Hossell Hau talltett » ODCl « tif ^ l » ftlI StWjBB ) ; bow Mr . Oatwme rememberedthat th » ton , aenUeaMn oo ^ rfte-one of the twin merobfrs for Iforth wCrwicfcaiii ^ one occasion Tentilated a story in that House dfeucliaSWd tKinensions that though challenged upon the si ^ wrjMJlrfii ^ ¦ cohrsniehtly forgot ever to refer v > ft aince . Tha ^ iiiS . tnentber [ if r . Spoonerl said on that tioBasiDn ^ - -O ^ f ^ ils wTiat goes on in these places . 1 was "the otherdsy ^ it ^ Bftj Lastob , in my own immediate nek ^ t ) au rh but £ Ifttis m ;^! rere mut tone of these establlsriraents buihHtjig ; : TlppeMeV ^ aadioandnitinerous cells fttted lip ^ r'conftm ^ twtfiitor tanate inmatos . " He wootd give th » horn > Mn 4 leittamt ^ a | benefit of Me " cells "—(?•*«»¦ , " cmcI ia ^ i ^^ buttte jrtcolteoted at very graai « eBattionrWM cfaKteAvin'thttrHNalB by the statexaeak * ud Lot « lieVedtli * 4 i-rkion whwh-folldwatl
was , mainly iaflueaced by it . He V # na <» soipMiintialries ioto the raatter j and it tujned Qat , thatttheJio {| . gentkawa ? s ceDs were ncttung more tiuua ordiaary oclUrBiana that srha > the lion , member thought was a cell for the flagellation if monks was no more than a larner for haneing up matfenl , ( &reat lauvkier . ) The hon . gentleman had been imjposeil « pen , and he had imposed upon himself . The building teas connected with the oratorians , and was built in the iinfiiiaSj vayas an Ocalorio *; bat « o determined was the hoof * gsttttsmaniio be deceived , that a drain which ran a ^ artloilar'MSy he foeisted was a chamber of penance . This > was ons ^« ' HhoaenamevoaBcook-aad-bullstorieswhioUhad goneaibroa ^ aadwhicUbad been circulated in Parliament morOfwiclaBr
by the hon . member for North Warwickshire than any aoe else . ( Cheert and much la-ughler . ) Sectarian , rancour aOjeared to huve one of the qualities of the elephant ' s trans , HoChteg was either too large or too Bnnall for its grasp . Ti » e other day these clients of the hon . and learned gentleman went to the county of Saasex with a new device . Tftffi e were a set of persons , it appeared , omplojed to go roandHnft country to give lectures , by whom the most monstroiwaav sertions were made , aud in the remote districts of Surtax they were probably credited . He had In his hand a most extraordinary bill—printed no doubt by the printer of the Protestant Alliance—announcing a lecture at HaotlngS j and addressed to the friouds of the revelation , and informing them that the " Rev . Theodore , D . D ., formerly infnUitns , COd archdeacon in the Roman catholic ctiurch —and the- rev . rantlemen astonished th « people of HastinjM , who be «
CtiSposod , wore not very well versed in geography , bf infbi'nrfn * them that ly th « Pope ' s order he waa neirt to 8 M » erltt far reading the Scriptures . ( Hoars of laughter . } W » ( br'QMe Jear and ol v <; n inontlia lia . d undergone great flurffMnft . and een pcrsecuti'd by puseyilca and popish y > riestft-+ ( Tmtfffl £ r —and thut he had to appear before the Secretary of State accompanied by three English gentlemen . He had lettfem from severnl eminent servants of God , awd would' lecture 5 6 & the 21 at instant ( the lecture was headed , ' the Inquiskfom and Puseyiam' ) , on which occasion tlte rereren ^ dooler wonSB be habited in his pontifical robes . (* Bear , hear , ' and hiUj ^ Her . ) Those were the devices and tricks by which people were deceived , and by which people out pf doors werolnd'Boan to put on the parliamentary screw which caused 1 k > d . gttttlernen , contrary to their feelings and ' wishes to « ormtenao « B motions like tms . But that -mw nob all . Tl > i » soolteftr
moral of Irish pauper * , and he had * repeatedthat ft formed : no part of this bill ; whether ft agpesr&S iX ^ the Irish menibers Iiad construed the cpnamuuic&tibu they had received into a pledg * thattlie bHX should include Irish paapers , and others had put the * samce construction upon it . Hehadi always tottt o £ opinioB , and * was so stall , that tihe Mali question wa » AoVs ^ e for legislation ^ and ; holding this opioion ^ heooutd not help thinking that * if he reta 4 ue ( i oflEkei his efficiency and character a * m p « fel » e servaati' flight be greatly iiirpaired-, antf tbe measnre ftssetf endrangered . Acting : upon this ground * , and tnis" afonw
on Tuesday he resignea Ms office . H&rcmg read a letter from LorcC Aberdeen ^ requestihg : nim . to suspend * his decisbn ^ Mr . Baiaes went on to sap ^ thwtfin had reeonsideraL the matter and . detenttoaed . tore ^ r tdtwo firieeds the ^ uestio ^ vhetfter htf cotd «^ viab henour to hinsel ^ and wtthout wentoenng' hi »« € Bct « ucy a * » ptibfte serYaist , and witlwtttt < Hm&&fmttfge tatite publie eterviee ; tetsRn hi * offiee ^ I'heywww of opiniott tnat he could , arttd he had accordSngfy cpiafifiedhiiB tesoiutfenr , and consented to remans im office far the ptesefitr Lord FALKRas-Kyw paid- a high tribute to the
character of Mr , Baines » assuring him thakbia- coih leagues would ooaaider it * great misfo » t » neto thew and to the couatryif they lost the lemtte of . ttiBi exertions . Nothing could be further from , flask thoughts ? fte aarid ^ - i » the tvansactioa -Itau * « t 0 ing ? » ey thing thai co ^ rid be aopposed to- indicate ike slightest wattt of that regard and resp « ct t& which he wa » mjtatty entitled . So far from its havrimj been the intention of the Cabinet that them should be > a . change in this bill , he had never for one instant COKsidered that , with regard to Irish paupers , the change should be made in the same KH .
Mr . Dchcombb , Mr . Tacxx , and Colonel Dunne , paid high compliments to Me . Bainesr Mr . Biskaxx . ! said ^ th » statement -ot Me- Baisei had left his lionour uotouched ^ snd fioagcatulatod : the country upon his retaining anc offic « m . vbicklM ! had acquired the public confidence wliile hdminisr texing a most unpopular law . It was a remarkable ! circumstance ,. Mr . Bisraell added , that ^ hia twelve months five members of the Administratiou aad&Eti
it their duty to resign offiee , and almost immediately to return their posts .. Hie thought some machinaay might be devised by which : these internal bickering might be terminated without being divulged to the country . A court of arbitration might be dlAentt to construct ; but he imagined that recourse might be had either to the youngest bishop or to some retired diplomatist—there was Sir Hamilton Seymour —whose intervention might , prevent the repetition of scenes always to be deplored .
r an jrtnr * rEET quxstkov . Mr . Chambuhs again furnished the Monte of Commons with the theme lor a aig > h , t * a dehata , oa TuAsday by moring the names of the gentlemen to be nominated as a committee to make the reovired inquisition into the condition of con « rents and' monasteries . Mr . Bowter moved that the order for the > appointment of the committee be discharged !; sustaining his motion by various arguments . In the first place he insisted that no time could he more wtneopitious for insulting the Catholics than the present , when so many are called upon to fight the battles of
their country . Yet this motion was an insult to the Catholics , and an imputation on their honour . Since the passing of the Emancipation Act Its penal clauses had never been enforced , why is the subject revived now , and how is it that the-se institutions have suddenly become dangerous ? Considered as a matter of law the appointment of a committee to inquire into a matter that may lend to a criminal prosecution is illegal ; for inquiries concerning Magna Chart a directed that all offences against the law should be according to the course of the common
law . Then with respect to convents , eurely they should bo held sacred , and the ladiea who inhabit them not dragged before a Parliamentary Committee . No caBe had been made out for such an inquiry . It ia not true that convents have increased , nay , rather they have decreased ( from 25 to 11 ) since the French revolution , while the increase of monasteries has only been in the rutio of the increase of the population . If the unenclosed orders have increased , that has been caused by the demand for education ) especially in Ireland . 1
Mr . Kbmomdbj havingseconded the amendment , and Lord Lovainiu having made a spceoh in support of the original motion , Lord John Rueajctx said he thought the House might well re-conoider its
deci-Sir Joan Fakinqton , Lord Gb-aitoy , Mr * Robert Pai ^ ier , Sir John Tbo&lopiv and others of lesser note , insisting that the subject should be treated as a wholey and that unfit Government , stated its ; intentions legislation should stand still ; admittmg at the same time the right of Irish « aed Scotch pavpen * in England to irreraovability , if that right wore accorded to English paupers . Although they disclaimed , party motives the combination looked Tery like one . . $ he Irish members * represented by Colonel DutfxB , and later by Mr . Maodirk , held that Government tiad forfeited a pledge givaa to * them ? that the case of the Irish paupers should be included in- the bifl , and on that ground resolved to vote agaiost Ministers *
Early in the debate LoFd Pamcersto * stated the views of Ministers . He hoped that the House would aflfrnv the principle of the bill ) and after * tribute to the laborious and courageous service * of the Irish- in our towns , he said that the justice of an equal treatment lor English and Irish was manifest . But further inquiry as regarded the latter was deufable , not only to obtain materials ^ but to remove ttarfbunded prejudice . English , gentlemen were afraid of a flood <> f Irish paupers ; but how were they to come , and who was to send them ? Them were no public funds for suclv a purpose , and although he admitted that it
might be accomplished by private subsc » iptiony a guard against that course might be contrived by makiog necessary a year ' s previous residence in the town where relief was sought . Further consideration of that part of the subject was desirable , but they should go on with the present bilL There would be nothing to preclude the hous « from subsequently etttertaining the laws of Scotland and Ireland ; and reading , the bill the second time would . not pledge members to proceeding further , unless assured that a safe measure would be introduced as to those countries .
Mr . Maquirx saw no chance of justice to Ireland if it were excluded from this bill , and he objected to part with the screw which the Irish members now had upon the Government . Lord John Russell reminded the House that the course the Government proposed was no new one , but had been announced by Lord Aberdeen , who had stated that the Irish , question must be dealt with , but that the present bill would not on that account be postponed . He was surprised at the slur Irish members sought to cost on the bill , a * , if it were carried ,
the principle against compulsory removal would be affirmed in England , and then the claim of Ireland would _ be irresistible . If the bill were not carried , the Irish labourer would remain in his present condition , with the consolation only that the condition of the English labourer was unchanged . The House then divided , and the numbers were —for adjournment , 209 ; against it , 183 ; majority against Government , 26 . * Arlpud Opposition cheer followed the announcement of the numbers ; and the debate was adjourned .
THE RESIGNATION OF 3 IU . BAIN 3 CS . On Thursday morning the public were apprised that Mr . Bainee , the President of the Poor Law Board , had resigned his post . Naturally , parliamentary explanations were looked for , and on Thursday evening Mr . Bainks rose before the orders of the day came on , and requested to be allowed to state some circumstances relative to his connexion with the Poor Law Board and to the Settlement and Removal Bill . Ha had framed this bUl , he said , upon the recommendations of the committee of 1847 , and had
confined its provisions to the abolition in England and Wales of removal on tile ground of settlement . When he was naked whether the bill would extend to Irish paupers in England , he hud replied distinctly in the negative . Two davs before the day fixed for the second reading of the bill a memorial from Irish members of the Uouee was presented , to Lord I ' almerston , praying that the opportunity might be taken to put the Irish pauper in England upon the same footing as to removal aa the English pauper . A conainunicatiun was mado to tlie memo-
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Leader (1850-1860), April 1, 1854, page 291, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2032/page/3/
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