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Leader (1850-1860), 24th May 1851, Edition Town of 2, Page 486, Untitled Article

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      The proceedings of the committee of the whole House on the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill occupied nearly the -whole of yesterday evening . Mr . Duncombe moved that the first clause be postponed until the House was in possession of " the brief , rescript , or letters apostolical , " upon which the enactment in the clause was founded . Where was this brief or rescript ? He thought it ought to be produced before the House passed an ex post facto law depriving so many of their fellow-subjects of their religious rights and privileges : —

      " No reference was made to the document in the original bill , either in the preamble or the clauses . It was pirated from the honourable and learned member lor WiAhxiTSt—Ca lavgh ) — and , when the noble lord was asked the other night to produce it , his answer was that he was not called upon to do so ; that its existence was matter of notoriety , and that it had been in ali the newspapers . ( Hear ) Bat were they to legislate on the authority ot what appeared in the newspapers ? ( Hear . ) Only the other day a letter appeared in the Times purporting to come from Mazzini and a central committee m London setting forth their views with regard to European Governments generallyand sundry other matters ; and

      , there was a very able , amusing , and rather severe article in the Times regarding it . Now , if the noble lord had taken upon , himself to banish Mazzini and his friends from the country on the ground of this letter , he would no doubt have replied , had he been asked to produce it , that t ' ne letter had appeared in the newspapers . ( Hear , hear ) That letter , however , had turned out to be a hoax from hcs ' nnrimz to end , Mr . Mazzini himself having contradicted ' it . ( Hear , hear . ) Now , might not this rescript or letter apostolical , with the name ot ' Lambruschini ' attached to it , turn out also to be a hoax .

      ( Laughter . )" He asked the Attorney-General to dispose of the first clause unless r . lie noble lord would produce the document on the table . The Solicitor-Gknkkat , ( Sir W . P . VVoori ) told Mr . Duncombe that ho was a very witty hut very inaccurate speaker , and then contended that " the recital in the preamble did not require any proof at all , and that they only had to inquire whether it was a matter of notoriety that certain subjects of her Majesty claimed to assume titles under the alleged authority of the ace of Rome . " raised b

      The debate then deflected from the point y Mr . Duncoinbe , and lost itself in the interminable discussion of the probable legal effect of the bill , until Mr . AVai / i-om : brought it hack to the starting-point . They did not require the rescript : — " The honourable member for Finsbury said he liked a pood preamble , and referred to that of the 10 th of George IV . lie ( Mr . Walpole ) would refer to one of tho finest on the " statute-book , where they would see the Parliament , of England proceeded , not on legal proof , but on the public notoriety of the fact , ami recited that they did ho on what wan called ' common clamour . ' ( Derisive cheering from the . Irish members . ) Yen , they had proceeded on what they called , in genuine Haxon Kuulish , ' common clamour ' ( renewed cheering , and much laughter ) , but whut iw truncated into the diluted l ; mgu ; iu < ' taken from the Liitin as ' public notoriety . '—( Crc . at . laughter ,

      and derisive cheering . ) Mr . Kkooii and the Solicitor- ^ v . kv . hat- proceeded to discuss witli each other ( is to whether either could repeat accurately what the other hud previously » aid . Not a word ht ing Haiti by Mr . Keogh u ]» om the point before the committee until the end of his Hpeech : — " ¦ When the . honourable member for Finslmry asked where the rescript , mentioned in the preamble was to be found he was told Unit it . was a matter ol pubic :

      notoriety and the honourable and learned m < mber for Midhurst informed the House that , thin was the d , luted Latinized Knglish for common clamour , whicli , l . y an extraordinary effort of philology , h .- had < lis « : «> yer « . il to be puie Saxon , ( ' / fear , ' and laughter . ) He ( Mr . Keogh ) Jleclan d in the faee of the House that no hull con erring authority on any peiHon , as stated in the preamble , had been published even in a newspaper . " After Home further opposition the amendment wan rejected by 221 to 4 f > .

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      Mr . Duncombe's motion being lost , the committee proceeded to discuss the amendments , on the first clause , proposed by Sir F . Thesiger , Lord Arundel and Surrey , and Mr . Sadleir . Sir F . Thesiger moved , instead of the words " the said brief , &c , " to insert the words " such briefs , &c , " intending to move corresponding amendments in the preamble ; his object being , he said , to comprehend all similar rescripts which may have been issued prior to the bill within the terms of the declaratory enactment contained in this clause . - The Government opposed the amendment , and , after a long discussion , Sir Frederick Thesiger consented to defer it until a similar amendment of Mr . Waxpole should have been disposed of .

      Lord Arundel and Surrey moved , page 2 , clause 1 , line 23 , after the word " thereby , " to insert the words " save in so far as the exercise or use of such jurisdiction , authority , preeminence , or title shall be necessary for spiritual purposes . " The debate on this was short , but flavoured by a small speech from Sir H . W . Barron : — " Did the noble lord say the Roman Catholics of this House or country were connected with the conspiracy he alleged to exist against the liberties of Europe ? He told the noble lord to his teeth that it was a base falsehood . ( Criesof Order . ' ) The Chairman hoped that the hon . baronet would regret having used those words . ht that the chairman

      ' < Sir H . W . Barron thoug surely had not beard his words . (< Order , ' and « Hear . ' ) What he said was , that if the noble lord charged the Roman Catholics of this House or this country with a base conspiracy against the liberties of mankind , it was a base falsehood . ( Hear , hear . ) He had taken down the noble lord ' s words . Speaking of the appointment of the Roman Catholic bishops in England , the noble lord said , ' it was a part of a conspiracy to prevent the extension of civil and religious liberty in Europe . ' I t was the appointment of the Roman Catholic bishops that was a part of that conspiracy . Did that , or did it not , connect the Roman Catholics of this country with a conspiracy against civil and religious liberty ? ( Cries of ' JSo . ) He was wrong , then . " The amendment was rejected by 316 to 61 . Mr . Saixleir moved a similar amendment , which was

      negatived by 317 to 57 . Sir Benjamin Halt , suggested that the House should meet , and proceed with the bill , every day at twelve o ' clock . Lord John Rttssexi , was not prepared to adopt the suggestion , but would certainly do so if necessary . The chairman reported progress , and obtained leave to sit again on Monday . The House adjourned at twentyminutes past one o ' clock . In the House of Lords conversations were held on Registration of Assurances Bill , Guano , and Pentonville Prison . The Bishop of Oxford complained that Prison

      the system originally adopted at Pentonville had been departed from in admitting hardened criminals who could not be reformed ; and that some of the prisoners condemned to solitary confinement were allowed to meet in the day for purposes of common labour . Lord Gr < y said that when the experiment was proved to be successful it was found necessary to admit any kind of criminal , and not confine it to select specimens ; and that , as to the arrangements for common labour , they were necessary for the sake of economy . The French Assembly decided on Thursday , by a large majority , to take two important propositions into consideration , and then refer them to the same committee . The first , proposed by M . Moulin , was that all motions for the revision of the constitution shall be referred to a committee of fifteen members , elected in general Assembly by the absolute majority , eight da \ H after their presentation . The second , proposed by M . Morin , was that the standing orders , which require six months to elapse before a rejected motion can be again brought on , be dispensed with , and that one month lie substituted . The motions were hotly opposed by the Mountain . Louis Napoleon reviewed 12 , 000 cavalry , on Thursday , in the Champs Klysee . The cries of" Vive Napoleon ! " were numerous at . the IJridge of Jena ; but " Vive le President , " and " Vive la Uepublique , " predominated in the Champs JKIys-eie . Mr . DaweH , free-tr . ulo candidate for the Isle of Wight , is opposed by Captain A'Court . The nomination took place y <> tenlay . Mr . D . iwch had the show of hands . The poll will take place on Monday and Tuesday . The Oiks was won by Lord Stanley ' * Iris , MiHBerima bv n-y ; m < : i , u (\ , and Jlctue Ilombur ^ third . It wan a tfood racf . Tiif wc . uhf-r vva « ; n fine and the company only Icns brilliant liian tho . se of the Derby day . Sir II .. I . Fust ( hliveied judgment in the cause of Ma / 1 m v . Karr . Mr Karr wan the defendant in the action of O <« . Mford v K ; irr . The cause wan founded on that ixrion . . Sir II . 1 . Flint decided that , the promoter ha'l failed to entabliHli hi * charge an respected MrH . (» . infold , mid that now alleged of habits of intoxication , Hwe-iring , ai . il lewd living . But , an Mr . Karr had not altogether r . \ : ared himself from suspicion , the couit adin ( inis !( , ( l him to be mure careful in liiturc . He would in . ike no order as to con's . Notice , of appe : d was given . The inquettt on tlie (/ 'lay Cross Railway mnasli threatens I to be as long as the Fioclnham iu <| iie . st . The evidence at present , appears to hliow great ( MieleHKiiCKs in the nnmagement . of the line . Wiiliim Pamplin wan again remanded yenUrday . No new evidenci- has b < eii brought foiw . ird , cxccjtt tha' he in alleged to have been at Wmeliebttr on tho Thuisdny , night and to have denied it .

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      TO READERS AND OOREESPONDENTS . Several letters have been received by our publisher complaining of the non-receipt of papers , or ihe non-arrival of the Leader , until Monday . We hare made inquiry , and find that the errors have not arisen in our office . The Country edition cf the Leader is published on Friday , and the Town Edition on the Saturday , and Subscribers should be careful to specify which edition they wish to receive . Complaints of irregularity should ¦ be made to the particular news-agent supplying the paper , and if any difficulty should occur again it will be set riglit on application direct to our office , 10 , Wellington-street , Strand , London . It is impossible to acknowledge the mass of letters we receive . Their insertion is often delayed , owing to a press of matter ; and when omitted it is frequently from reasons quite

      independent of the merits of the communication . Communications should always be legibly written , and on one side of the paper only . If long , it increases the difficulty of finding space for them . AH letters for the Editor should be addressed to 10 , Wellingtonstreet . Strand , London .

      Saturday, May 24.

      Saturday , May 24 .

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      There i 3 nothing so revolutionary , because there is nothing so unnatural and convulsive , as the strain to keep things fixed when all the world is by the very law of its creation in eternal progress . —Db . Arnold .

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      SATURDAY , MAY 24 , 1851 .

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      THE REAL AGGRESSION ON LIBERTY AND ENGLAND . It is surprising that Lord John Russell , with so distinct a conception of the conspiracy existing against " civil and religious liberty /* should so totally misconceive the nature of the aggression on this country . We heartily sympathize with his anxiety on the subject , and rejoice to see that his vigilance is awakened ; though he has not yet turned his eyes upon the true point of danger . The country owes him much gratitude for the announcement which he made the other night , officially recognizing the conspiracy ; but he never was more mistaken than when he proposed the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill as the means of resisting that conspiracy . He would easily understand the nature and extent of his mistake if he would survey the actual conduct and progress of the movement . That Rome has some expectations from the success of the scheme we can well imagine ; but the man who can discern any formidable revival of power in the Pope or his Government , must be able to see through a thousand millstones . It is quite evident that , so far from being the originator and master of the enterprise , the Pope is nothing more than an expectant , an unconsulted dependent ; nor is the conspiracy in his branch of it making any decided progress . His latest attempt to subdue Spain was effectively rebuked by that most backward of Liberal Governments . Even in faithful and favoured Ireland , the attempt to prohibit the Queen ' s Colleges was a failure , because it was not accordant with the views and feelings now entertained by the great body of educated Catholics in that country . In England , the same description would apply still more strongly . There is no fear , therefore , of aggression from the conspiracy through Queen Victoria ' s Roman Catholic subjects . The very history of Lord John ' s exertions shows how difficult it is for him to define an enemy in this direction . The Bill with which he followed up bis Durham letter has been abandoned by himself—proving that his first idea of the enemy is also abandoned ; since he is not the man to surrender to popular clamour any measure which he considers essentially needed . That bill has been abandoned in favour of the totally new Bill , which is now mellowing under a course of adjournment by the House of Commons . In fact , Lord John had been induced to approach the subject with a preconceived notion , and thus he was really operating as a diversion in favour of the conspiracy . He has been set to resist the impotent ; and , thus disposed of , he leaves the way unobstructed for the potent . Yet , if he could be induced to take it , a moment ' s glance at the condition of Europe would display the real danger and its progress . Whut power is it which , as the patron and companion of Austria , has restored Absolutism in Hungary , in Italy even down to the very toe of tho " Boot , " in Bohemia , in Germany ? What power continues to menace the Christian provinces of Turkey , and vindicates its authority , even in Constantinople , by forbidding the release of Kossuth ? What power , against the first advices of England , has given hack iSchleswig-Holtitein to Denmark , henceforth to be held by a new tenure advantageous to the new donor ? What power hus brought Frederick William to his senses , and restored him to Absolutist conncilH ? Whut power has suppressed constitutionalism , even where it lurked , no harmless and so tranquil , in Ilense-CasHel ? What power is understood to have its man of straw engaged , with the beNt chance , in the gambling of French parties for the ultimate reversion of the Republic ? Lord John Russell can answer thuue questions as well as we can : he knows what power was the html of tin * conspiracy which \ iv ( IciioiiihT' 1 , and which has made miuli . sinking pro ^ rjsu against civil and religious liberty .

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    • Leader (1850-1860), May 24, 1851, page 486, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1884/page/10/