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      She then told me she was the Baroness Von Beck , hut that when she offered her services to Kossuth , she did so under the assumed name of " Eacidula ; " and that , under that name , she had done considerable service to Kossuth and Hungary . Upon my asking her why she came to London , she answered , that it was her most earnest desire to reach Kossuth , in order to bear him company in his captivity ; that she had been recommended to apply to Lord Dudley Stuart , whose name was mentioned with respect and affection amongst the martyrs of liberty , as a person likely to afford her counsel " and assistance towards the accomplishment of her object . ¦ I advised her to apply to Mr . Francis Pulszky ; but she said that Mr . Pulszky was no friend of Hungary ; that he had done little service for Hungary ; and that some Hungarians , who were then residing at Hamburg had even warned her from . Pulszky .

      I endeavoured to impress upon her , that it would bo prudent to keep such opinions concerning Pulszky to herself , as they could not do her any good , and might do her harm in her present condition . I then promised to speak to Lord Dudley Stuart respecting her affairs , and to obtain an audience for her . I accordingly spoke to his lordship about her on the same day , and he expressed himself very curious to see the lady . Her second visit was about 11 o'clock in tho forenoon of the day following . Lord Dudley Stuart , whose sympathies extend throughout tho world , and the whole course of whose life and actions constitutes a continued act of beneficence , was visibly touched at the sight of the lady . He received her politely , saying , " What can I do for you ? " The Baroness , who did not speak English , began to explain her wishes in the German language , which I translated into English for his lordship .

      She related the services she had rendered to Hungary , and gave a brief account of her own sufferings and losses . Lord Dudley Stuart heard her with attention , and advised her to write and publish an account of her life and deeds . The Baroness answered , that she felt herself incapable of writing a book , as she had never before composed anything for the press ; but , upon my expressing my willingness to read throug h her manuscript , she promised to attempt it . In conclusion , she requested Lord Dudley Stuart to have the goodness to take charge of a letter from her to Kossuth , and to forward it to its destination ; which his lordship promised to do . The next day , she handed mo the letter to Xossuth . It was written in German , and contained evidence of relations of the most friendly and confidential kind between her and him whom she regarded as the greatest man of Hungary .

      She sealed the letter after I had read it , and handed it over to my charge . I showed it to Lord Dudley Stuart , who told me to deliver it to M . Sczulzozki , at No . 10 , Duke street . M . Sczulzezki , on my taking the letter to him . gave me , at my request , a written receipt for it . Some days afterwards , the Baroness brought me a few shoots of her manuscript . I read it all through ; and as the style was pretty good , requiring but a few corrections which I pointed out , I encouraged her to go on with it . I told Lord Dudley Stuart that the Baroness , in accordance with his advice , had already written several sheets of her Memoirs , at which his lordship was evidently well pleased . Mr . Pulszky entered tho office with Lord Dudley Stuart a . i ' _vw days . subsequently , and their conversation turned upon the Baroness Von Heck . Mr . Pulszky said that she had been a spy . " Yes , " said his lordship , ' but she was on the right aide ? " " Of course , " _answered Mr . Pulszky . These are tin ; identical words which J myself have hoard from the mouths of Lord Dudley Stuart and Mr . Pulszky . The Baroness , who afterwards visited me from time to time , expressed her wish (<> dedicate her work lo Lord Dudley Stuart . 1 iinpitrfcd ( his wish to him , and he replied that he hud no objection . . Karly in June , I was informed by ( he _Haronoss \ ou lm

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      Heck , (( , she had . succeeded in disposing of her work lo Mr . Heiitley ; and ut the joint request of herself and that gentleman , I looked over ilio agreement between ( hem , as Hie memorandum was in Kngli . sh , wilh which language the lady was not conversant ; mid I communicated to Lord Dudley _Sliiivrt the satisfaction 1 felt on the occasion . 11 , is uly most earnest desire 11 ml . I rut 11 inny triumph over calumny and prejudice ; and believing ( hat . the foregoing short , sketch of my personal _knowledge of the unhappy lady , whose death has been surrounded wilh ho much painful mystery , mav contribute ( o throw light upon her _chnmcfvT and net ions , 1 willingly oiler it to the friends of jus ! ice and humanity . ( Signed ) \ V i i . i . i am B . U'KimiH .

      I _) K . _PL'SIOV AND Till-: MASTKlt OK TIIK ROLLS . correspondence lms recently taken _following Tub place : TO TIIH KMJIIT HON . HIK JOHN _ItOMll . l _. Y , IWAHTIOIt . Olf TIIK KOI _. I _.. S . Sut , I see ascribed to you the following words : u I inn strongly opposed ( o tho _U _' oniiin-catholic religion , anil a . s strongly to ( he doctrines of that peculiar sol . of persons commonly called Puseyites , whom I consider more dangerous than open and iivow . mI _Koinaii-eatholios . " 1 cannot but . hope lhal . ( hero may bo some error in the report _, of your words , and that you did not . really nay this . If you did nay it , permit , mo with all respect to inquire whether , on relleelion , it seems to you just and equitable that ono holding your o / lico should have Hpoken such words publicly P \( I _nuHtulio not , you are yourself a judge in ( ho very court wliioh , if Haw dootrinea were le-

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      gally called in question , and there were any appeal from the lower court , would have to try them in the last resort . Bearing the sacred office of a judge , you would in your own court have thought it a bounden duty , before God and man , not to prejudge a cause . " Doth our law judge any man before it hear him , and know what he doeth ?" In this instance you have descended from the office of a judge to that of a public accuser . You have implied that certain persons , more or fewer , contemptuously called by my name , firstly , teach doctrines which they do not openly avow ; and , secondly , that such doctrines are at variance with those of tho church of England . I will not believe , unless I am obliged , that' you did this for any political object . I will believe that it is your sincere , although unfounded , conviction . But then you must desire , equally with myself , that this state of things should not last . You must be as anxious that the evils which you deprecate should be removed as I am that the truth should not be evil spoken of . I have taught nothing in private which I have not taught openly . I am ready to give public account , not only of what I have taught , but of every point of my belief and practice . I should be glad to do this , in order that it might , if any thought good , be made the subject of a prosecution in an ecclesiastical court . I pledge myself to do this—publicly , fully , distinctly , without reserve—that if you think my teaching on any point not implicit enough for the law to take cognizance of it , it may be the more easily tested , whether it is or is not in accordance with the doctrine of the church of England . I do so because I believe that it would be a relief to many minds to have this question formally settled . And now , I solemnly call upon you to take one of these three courses : —¦

      1 . To disavow or withdraw the words ascribed to you . 2 . To sue me in an ecclesiastical court . In this case I will defend myself ( without any resort to any legal or technical grounds ) simply upon the merits of the case itself . I will interpose no plea which the state of the law might allow me , hut simply maintain what I have taught to be in conformity with the doctrine of the church of England , or agreeable thereto . If you do not , I call upon _} r ou and your friends , at least , thirdly , as you respect the principles of justice and honesty , and , much more , as you stand in awe of the judgment seat of Christ , in which account is to be given of every idle word , not again to impute to me or to my friends , that our doctrines are not " open or avowed , " nor to inflame the people against their pastors by insinuations which you cannot substantiate . Your humble servant , E . B . Puset . Christ Church , July 21 . The Master of the Rolls publishes the following reply to Dr . Pusey ' s challenge : — " July 23 . " Sik , —The words you refer to formed part of an answer sent by me to an application from an association of persons at Devonport for my opinion in writing on the subject of certain resolutions passed by them , and which answer was published by them . These words correctly express my opinions . I decline to take either the first or second course suggested by you . With respect to the third , I deny that these words imputed , or that they were intended to impute to yourself or to your friends , that your or that their doctrines are not open or avowed . " I am , Sir , your obedient servant , "To the Rev . Dr . Pusey . " " John Romilly . " Dr . Pnsoy has replied as follows : — Silt , —You will not have been surprised that , when you contrasted my friends with " open and avowed Roman Catholics , " I should have interpreted those words us con- ¦

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      veying an imputation of dishonesty , under which it is of the utmost moment to religion itself , and the _woll-being of our Church and people , that none of its clergy should lie . Tho like imputations have unhappily been too common , nnd must do harm to the morals and faith of the people . Your own name , character , and otlice seemed likely to give the more weight to them . It was on this ground that I appealed to you to bring the matter to a fair , full , nnd formal issue . I hoped that the honesty and jus ) . ice of Knglishmen would prevent their _renewing indefinite charges when they have been met by a plain oiler lo bring them to a delinile result . As you now deny any intent ion of imputing to my friends or myself thai , our duel rines ure not " open and avowed , " I may beg as publicly to _assure you that 1 gladly accept your statement . Your humble servant , K . 11 . I _' lJHKV , Christ . Church , July _27 .

      LIBKRAL FESTIVAL IN CAKI / ISLK Kvkrv . scone in which Sir . lames ( _ilmbum is nit actor , stands out ; among the ordinary news , nnd takes rank ; is history . On Monday , In * wjis tho chief figure at a groat Liberal festival , held at , Carlisle , in honour of tho re-eleel . ion of Howard and Marshall for _lOast Cumberland . Hut . if , in not . the speeches of these gentlemen which the journalist , records . They are dismissed in a lino ; while Sir James Oraliiim is reported iwr / _t / _if / m ct /// crafiiii . The gist , of thin . speech wo subjoin . Opening with a fine anil spirited sol , of compliments to the " Hlues , " his party , with compliments to Lord Carlisle for leaving the yeomanry fren to vote us they list ,, ho gave Homo interesting particulars about , his own election . " I can truly nay I huvo not . canvassed a single vole at I he last , elect ion . ( Cheers . ) I can Kay with truth that 1 had not , a paid agent , at , I he hist , election ; that I bin triumph has been achieved , not . by hired interference ., but , by the combined efforts of ( he electors and non-electors ol Carlisle . ( Cheers . ) It , jh , if ever there was a popular triumph , m pure popular triumph ; and 1 defy any enemy lo _contradict that triumph . ( Loud choorij . )"

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      He made merry at the expense of the " lop-sided representation" of Whitehaven , and Westmoreland , and West Cumberland ; aud then he passed to a cognate subject , showing how closely bribery and intimidation are related .

      " You have heard of a letter addressed by a member is alleged by a member of the Government—to a Mr Frail ( ' hear , hear' ehpnrs . and _laiifrhtovV t _. liA _oloi-L- _r . _e ti _ Frail ( ' hear , hear , ' cheers , and laughter ) , the clerk of the course at Shrewsbury . ( Hear , hear . ) Now ( continued Sir James , turning to the side galleries where some ladies were sitting ) , now ladies are present , and therefore I shall vindicate them from the false assertion of the poet , that . Frailty , thy name is woman . ' ( Great laughter . ) I say that men are frail—much more than the ladies ( roars of laughter ); and if there be a man more frail than another ( continued laughter ) , Frail of Shrewsbury is pre-eminently that man . ( Shouts of laughter , and cheers . ) Now , gentlemen , on the Gth of April , of the present year , a friend of mine—this is a secret , mind ( laughter)—a friend of mine told me in the House of Commons , ' You are going to stand for Carlisle . You must be on your guard with respect to a certain barber from Shrewsbury ( great laughter ) , of the name of Frail . ( Roars of laughter . ) We have reason to believe that he visited Carlisle once before . He was in Carlisle at the election of ' 47 . ( Loud laughter and cheers . ) He has been in London lately , and we have reason to believe that his mission will be to Carlisle at the approaching election . ' ( Hoars of laughter . ) I was much dismayed , as you may suppose . ( Laughter . ) I had never heard of Mr . Frail before , but I did write to my friends at Carlisle , and said , ' Be on your _guard with respect to Mr . Frail , of Shrewsbury . ' ( Re _ iterated laughter and cheers . ) They took the wise precaution of sending over to Shrewsbury to make themselves acquainted with the person of this Mr . Frail . ( Laughter and cheers . ) The alarm was excessive throughout the contest . As the critical moment drew nigh—that terrible night between the nomination and the poll—we became exceedingly alarmed ( laughter ) ; and I tell you again , we watched diligently the arrival of every train at tho station of Carlisle , expecting Mr . Frail to make his appearance . ( Roars of laughter . ) But he was so busily occupied elsewhere that he did not come . ( Laughter . ) I know not whether the claims of Derby or Shrewsbury kept him away , but he was not forthcoming ( renewed laughter ); _= ind we had no ' Man in the Moon' in Carlisle , for Mr . Frail did not venture to show his face . ( Roars of laughter , and cheers . )"

      As to the spread of democracy : — " A short time after Lord Derby's and his colleagues accession to power , we have Lord Derby talking of the extreme danger of the spread of the democratic influence . ( Hear , hear . ) I have no such great alarm at the spread of democracy . I have seen the conduct of the electors of Carlisle . ( Loud cheering . ) I have seen the behaviour of the people of Carlisle . ( Renowed cheering . ) I have witnessed the conduct of the electors of Carlisle , and also of the non-electors ( cheers ) during this contest , and whatever apprehensions I may have had of the increase of democratic power they have been very much mitigated by what I have soon . ( Loud cheers . ) If I were the most timid person , dreading the increase of power on the part of tho popular party , I should say deliberately , that Lord Derby , during the short period ho has held office , has done more to give a sudden and violent influence to tho popular party than any course of mild progressive reform could have effected in the space of two generations . ( Loud cries of ' Hear , ' and cheers . )" His criticism of the actual position of the Derby Ministry in relation to the country is admirable . "We are told that after the overthrow of Lord Derby ' s ( _government tho Deluge comes . ( Laughter . ) What was

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      the faot before the deluge is recorded p Wo read that all people spoke one language . What ; was tho post-diluvian y _yrnptom P ( Loud laughter . ) There was a confusion of _fongues . ( Renewed laughter . ) I think the deluge is past and Babel is come . ( Reiterated laughter . ) There aro nofc two members who hold the name , _language . ( _Ohoern ami laughter . ) Take tho Lord Advocate of Scotland . Ho addresses a small but intelligent constituency in this north of Scotland , and tells them , ' Ood forbid thai . I should interfere with Freo Trade . ' ( Cheers . ) Ho will not even bo a party to any evasive measure by which an equivalent ran bo given to agriculture . ( Hear , hear . ) Compare- that with tins _Solicitor-Uonerul's declaration , in addressing tho peoplo in the south of . Kngland . ( Hear , hear . ) Ho says that ho feels the question must , be revised . ( Hear . ) Mr . Wulpole has argued thai , in consequence of I ho repeal of tho corn laws , the poor-rales have increased ; ( hat crime has increased ; that , tho deposits in ( he Havings-banks have , diminished ; and that , _I'Vee-frade has made inroads upon tho humble thrift , of the poor . ( Hour . ) 1 say , if that is his opinion , ho is bound ( o oppose the repeal of I he corn laws . ( Cheers . ) l ! ut , as to Lord Derby . He himself snys he entertains an opinion ( laughter and cheers ) - an individual opinion . ( Renewed laughter and cheering . ) An _individual opinion is entertained by the Prime Minister , but if tho people of this country think otherwise and _Kasl , Cumberland and Carlisle certainly think otherwise ( great cheering ) , bo nays , ' I will not propose the re-imposition of a duly upon corn . ( Laughter . ) I will leave * it to my Chancellor of tho Kxeheqiier lo propose some revision ot taxation which will compensate ( he agricultural interest for the losses ithas unstained . ' ( Laughter and derisive cheers . ) Wo ant too far north . ( Loud laughter and cheers . ) VV ~ o uro too far liorfh to he led away by thai ,. ( Loud cheers . ) 1 < _- in not I ho word ' protection' to which wo object ., but it- i « the thing _ifnolf to which wo object . ( Hour , hear , nnd cheers . ) A friend of mine has happily described tho meaning of ' protection . ' Ho says ' J . I , is neither moro nor less than out-door relief to farmers in distress . ' (( iroal . lau _^ hlor and cheering . ) Tho people of _Knglnixl won't have it . ( Knlhusiuslie cheering . ) They won ' t huvo it either in meal or in malt . ( Vociferous _chovring and

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    • Leader (1850-1860), July 31, 1852, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_31071852/page/4/