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    I JBfe »* ffirtifer- from his intention than to' interfere . with I pBfental * authority- or- tho rights of' ' conscience , - or- to I compel any particular religious teachings indeed ,- ' if his I proposition- could"only thnstto . ' carried ; into effect , he I siloaioUDe'tlWvfii'at maa t » -say , tiha addceafr ougirfr not to I dMkU He didmotrobject to-Sir / 3 Y > rteseue ' s < resolution- ; n 8 nsnsoidc * eveni adopt it , since i ^ iwu ^ put ^ foi ^ ardy not as rnehrdiag- th & adtivess ( to whtca ^ ha-woald not consent ) , ¦ ba £ bB * ai revision ' of itv-which ' . w > uld " remoye ? anyidbuW ; 'a 8 fetfts ^ ntention ^ This Houses an : d > th » Ministry -were' not tafeeDP by sn-rprisei oof the evening , of' the > preceding Tuesday ; and he could not therefore agree that- 'his > proceedings Irad been- otherwise . tfaaa . straightforward . . " Wr ^ T , \~ atviTr : mpnv ! - rpadilv annivit . tpA ~ Mr . W * alnolf » nf

    Cairns observed , modifications bad" been introduced'into < the system- ; but none affecting its vital principlSa ^ Ai great advance had been made towards extinguishing those habits of social warfare and * vi 61 ence ^ whlch ! have been so long the misfortune of Ireland ; , and now , "¦ when , hy-half a century of labour ,-you have attained so fair , there comes , a gentleman to . this House ,, who sa £ S , 'I will break in upon alTthis ( ctieers ); I willput an . end to this . unanimity ; I ' will' make Catholics jealous of Protestants , and Protestants jealous of Catholics . I rwill induce Protestants again to jpinand * deface that 1 fair work which has been effected / ( Qiieers ^ I have mxddubt of the sincerity of the right hon . gentleman .. I 1 t » vp > nn rtmiKfr . tlhat . ha fhinlra Via ia ooftcAvtnn + > . « «« t . _ I ¦»

    ! | ^ e 8 r ^ i ? tBr 6 ea , 28 . —TKe bill was tifcea readla tS fitSme ^ andrEasseit : musu r Tfie Saxxxsxax UoAxtBiuL was also reada thifd * Hme [ and passed . " ' - ^ -w ' TttB House reassemWed-at-six ^' clock , but was almost j immediately counted out . Wednesdatfyjune 2 &&~ . U . SrA ^ TNOO-TH ( TO LUE' & Bi ,, [ In . the House of Commons ,, Mr . SrooiaBk . iBfvefjNfce , seeond reading , of the Maynooth C < Alege < BiU , tib & Qte & tt of which isto-repeal the act . 8 thand-9 t & . V * otoria *> j aearp ^> ratingtha . trustees , and to . enact that , withcertain- ^* - ceptions ; the grant to the college from , the- consolidated iuucu out

    having ? noted unfairly , and : attributed the untoward result t » superior ¦ attractions elsewhere . Still ,, he believed- , that" th & eifisetof 1 the'address would have been to subvert the National system of education in-. Ireland ; but hB-waa s © pleased with Mr . Walpole ' s determination to , adoj » lcthe . tnetk > n , that-he-would , not- criticize his- weak raaeoos : for coining to that , decision-. Religious disacrd in' . Ireland ' is passing away ; but it would-, be revived by the-address . If'there-nraa no precedent for ceaeiadiag : that addr-ess , one-should be made . He- called uponoMtv-Wulpole and his colleagues- to define distanctly the nature of their-creed as regards Irish education ^—Mr . Cairns approved . of the address ; but thought that , as Government regarded it unfavourably , it was-the dtity , of Ministers to propose at once to rescind it . Their conduct , as it was ,. was- " uncertain , " and the resolution proposed by Mr . Fortescue was susceptible of various constructions . For . himself , he was- no enemy to the National system of education in Ireland ; . he thought it ri A 4 ^ ' rmAY ^ 'Yt ^ stS ^ « i s \^ i * rr \ r ^ r sw A t 4 ss-w * n * r \ r \ n 4-s " i 1 -v */* l I \ n n + r vn »» tuuuutivu ux- lu Aicituiu iuau ail

    —— »» *^ — — ' **» ** - * -w v * rm ^* . mv ^*^ VUAUAAU UV * W WiVWijirf 1 UC V ^ Vi * * . / \ * A 1 scientious scruples of Church of "England and other Protestants ,, and that he is only adding a supplement to the scheme of National education . I entreat him to dismiss I that thought from his . mind ; but I trust that , i £ the existing , plan is to be altered , he and-his supporters may be the parties to carry that alteration , into effect , and let them reap the bitter fruits that will ensue . " ( Loud c / ieers . ) Mr . Napier spoke in favour , of the address . —Mir . Horsjian observed that , if the views-of Mr . Walpole were carried out , there would be three thousand Maynooths to deal with annually , instead of one , since it would be necessary to give grants- to Roman Catholic schools and colleges , as well as to the Protestant . He rejoiced to see that Mr . Spoonerwas startled by this . ( Cheers . ) It was evident-that the hon . member was but little aware of the logical results of the system which he cheered so lustily a few nights since . Mr . Patbick O'Brien having spoken against the ad- fi fnca TVT »* rinno A "W » m j-vyt-Sis ! 4-st n e \ r \ r \ 4- 4-Tin aw si nf ill a _ m-. a uilI uvwail utuvcu LU «\ xla dl 11 Ul 11

    . . snoraa cease . — me . , was supported byy air William Veeneb and Mr . James Maoqrkoor * —Mr . LHENRy . Hebbbkt , without . making aoyy observations , moved , to- dofec the second , reading for si ? c months .. , Mr . MAauiRK . opposed the measure , and denouaced . thc . bigotryof Mr . Spooner- and his - adherents .. The- pions and resigned ^ deaths of Irish soldiers in- the'hospitals at Seutari showed the vaiae of tlie > Reman' . Gatholto-., i « U-^ ion .. Were such , men- to , be stigmatized- as idolatere , and their religion- to be slandered in- the . foul ¦< masnar they had heard ? No time could ba wesse than / th ^ nresent for making the proposed change . Where . - wreaid they have been in th & late waj but for'Catholic Eesnce , and Catholic Sardinia , and-. " tJio wild chivalry-of Gdnnemara , and Tipperary , and Kilkenny ? " With respect to images , the ideas-of Luther were equivalent to those of Roman Catholicsi It wa » . the . ' English , the Welsh , and the Scotch ,, who-went to- the , Mormon settlements ; never the Irish . It was impossible . to- chungp- the : r « ligion of Ireland ; all that could : be done-wa * - to keep < a wmie iiantusercuiw iue iaroaot

    * * * ** * * uau wcou- ^ gjcubci ^ jjiai , other system ; but it might be improved . It was no to rious ~ tb . at . the system had failed 5 that the children c Protestants and Roman Catholics are not educated withi the same walls * The paramount objects of the Nations Board would ! bo accomplished . by the modifications pro posed" in the address . The- present system had , beei described' as unchanged- and unchangeable ; but in som of the . convent-schools the rules are disregarded . Tit scholars in those schools are bound , to attend morning and'evening prayer , and ,, in some of them , the children in the . intervals of lace-making , learn the catechism o the Roman Catholic Church . Iioro ? John Russell adverted to the inconvenience which results from the rule of the House that addresses to-the Crown are to be carried by single divisions . So far from disapproving of the course now taken , he only wished that the resolution proposed by Mr . Fortescue had been more directly a reversal of the vote of the previous * Tuesday evening . Mr . Walpole T by " a . kind of ingenious Chancery pleading , " made the present ¦

    ; j ^ uiu u c » LUC CU LV 1 C 1 U ~ 1- lution the following , words : —" But that , consistently > f with these principles , the House is of opinion that no n school should be disentitled to receive aid from the-funds tl " of the board because the rules of such school require that 1- a portion of the Scriptures should be read each day by n each child , as part of the general instruction of the e " school . " ^—Mr . G . A . Hamilton supported this amende ment . j- An attempt was here made by Lord' B ' erners to ad-, journ the debate ; but it was defeated by 331 ' to 50 .-f Mr . Vance then moved that the House do adjourn *—This motion was supported by Mr . Newdegate , Mr . > Grogan , and Mr . George , who complained that the 1 Government had not declared their intentions ifnthe reso-1 lution shouldbe agreed to . —Lord Palmerston explained that the Government would regard the resolution , as > affirming that no change should be made in the existing ; . system . —IVIr . Disraeli said he considered that the resold lution , for -which he should vote , bound , him to maintain ; 7 the fundamental principles of the national plan of edubut that it aid not letter his discretion to

    . rouna « some-puricaDioai humbug , , who laughed . at the dyspeptic , old maids ; wfao subscribed their money for his support ., ( LaughterS ) -They might overturn Maynooth ,, but the-people- would . still , retain in their hearts , the undying spirit of the . < 3 a-. tholic religion . - Mr . Drusiaiond , in a more than ; usually wild ami eccentric speech , opposed the bill . After observimsptiai , instead of the church being an enormous , gainer by temporal support , it is au incalculable loser ^ . aHd that it is only the state that gains , he thanked Mr . Spoonetfor bringing the motion , forward , as he thought , it was ^ i question that should be considered " at least , onca a ' year ; " but he could not agree with the hoa . gentleman in his strictures on the Church of Rome ,, boeause .. it seemed to him that , of all' the . sects we . tolerate , in this country , the Romish sect is the only one . which-contains the whole truth ; ,, and because it was . his firm conviction that Protestants bring forward the abuses of Roman . Catholicism only to parry an . attack made on a vital : part of every church . Mr . Spooner and the . whole partyto

    resolution consistent" with that vote .. He could not help thinking that a desire for supremacy was at the bottom of the address ; but , as long as the present Government remained in power , the existing system of Irish education must bo continued . "It appears to me , " said . Lord John , " that , the rule being equality , Mr . Walpole proposes to introduce inequality ; that , the rule toeing , ' religious liberty , he proposes to introduce religious exclusion ; that , the present state of things being harmony , Eis address menaces us with discord . " ( Cheers ) ^ STr . Walpola and his coadjutors called themselves friends pf the Irish National system of education : they were certainly very candid friends , for they proceeded to point out ^ phe fault after another . Their plan , he repeated , would ^ destroy tho equality that . now prevails . " But it may be said that that equality might be restored by allowing Roman Catholics , in the schools in which they have a prevailing influence , to teach their church catechism , to all ' tho children attending their ochools . Would the House consent to a grant for such a purpose ? What Would bo the feeling of tlio IIouso—what would bo the feeling of tlio country—if they were told that lu 0 , 000 £ or 200 , 0002 . were given to schools iu which tho Roman Catholic religion was taught , and that l ' rotoatant cliil-( Jron were obliged to remain to hoar it ? ( Hear , hear . ' ) Why , tho cry would be that thoy vero cndcavournig to make proselytes ; and it would bo said besides , if tho Protestant children wore all awny , that it was an cnorlor xi

    ; canon , as anj . modification of the details . —Mr . Isaac Butt spoke in , favour of adjournment . Many members had ! left ; . and ¦ a decision , if then takon , would not represent the feeling of the House . The House again divided , and rejected the motion , foi adjournment by 328 votes to 39 . —A third division was immediately afterwards taken on Mr . Grooan ' s amendment , when there appeared , For . tho amendment ... ? 95 Against it ... 282 ;—187 The original : resolution was then put ,-and carricd ^ withont opposition . The other orders of the day were next disposed- of , and the House adjourned at two o ' clock ; . Tuesday , June 24 . tk . In the House of Lords , the Joint Stock . Companies Bill , and the Factories Bill , passed through committee . Tho Police ( Counties and Boroughs ) . BrLL . waaroported , witli tho amendments , and ordered t « " stand . for a third reading ; and tho Slkei * ino Statuses BTll was road a second time on th & motion of Earl FQBTEatiUE < OATH OV ADJURATION- AMKNttflBrcWT BILL . Tho second reading of this bill was moved by tho . liavl of Derby , -who explained that , ita object was to remove that part of tho oath of allegiance -which abjures . the PnAt . mt . l . iK , 111 it iarl \ -W » ll IU llATir IIAVilVkSWitr /"»! » Cl /^ l f * t i \ 11 9 - ? !»** ¦

    7 which he belonged were " doing their best to decry ; the i order of . the priesthood . " Mr . Drumaiond than pro » - L ceeded to do 7 iis hest to decry the order of the . priesthaood' ; I "for though asserting that , if Mr . Spooner looked for religion except from a priesthood and sacraments , hojrcould ! u look in vain for God upon earth , " ho-proceeded to- e & - > pound that " the priesthood in all age : * have . been . at . - foundation of tyranny , "" that " the dominion ; of ., the p _ rieathoacl is a . usurpation of the CQnimon . righta . of mankind , " and that " wherever they have , dominated * thay have degraded mankind . "' At the present . moment ,., the . Roman Catholic priests , said Mr .. Drummond r are eaixy-Jng on the most outrageous . iuHtancca of cruelty and pecv secution throughout . Europty and notably at Naplas . Being met with cries of "No , no ! " Mr . Drumtnond advised the objectors to " gp there "—a recommendation ' which was received with great , laughter . The Jesnita , 1 lie continued , arc the common nuisances of mankind : they arc in one organized mass of rebellion , against the , W ' ord of G ' od . But ho held that Ministers would not . . Ire fit for their places if they wore determined to legislate ¦ : ' for Great Britain and Ireland upon . sectarian , prinoiplaa . 1 They must , rcunember that they are ruling a-. mixed ' people . Honest men are ua much bound , ta respect , the jnrcjudices of one sect us of another ; and we ought- to keep our promise to tho Irish people- even , to our- own injury . But Mr . Spoouer and hia party-w « ro trying to mako " the poox wrotehed children" of tho Irishi oolioolfi flmir rnt . ' s nmv to carrv on tho war with tho- Roman

    mous sum granted mo propagimun <» errm . om consciences would not allow us to f ^ rant . ; $ 0 , 000 / . a year >' . Jfor tho education of priests at Muynooth , how wan it possible that we could grant 200 , 000 / . a year to educate Children in Roman Catholic tenets ? ( Cheers . ') Mr . Walpolo , however , said , ' Wo will remedy all that ; wo ¦ Wi ll adopt something like the system that in established IQ England , and if there aro 'Roman Catholic children , "fliciy may go to Roman Catholii ; schools in tho neighjBourliood . ' Why , that ia at once a subversion of tho old System ; it is nt onoo putting an end to ( but mixed Wttfem of education—not mixed with regard to religion , " But ' mixed with regard to persono— which nt prcHent « xi 8 tB . You go there , and , inntoad of giving these 'flhlhiitin an impartial rule , 3-011 give them a topogra'j $ ifcia CotiHOlation . " ( Cheers and law / liter . ) The pro-J ^ ip ' sajl ' to ro « d tho Bible at tho ordinary . school hourn , , whon ' -all ' tho children would bo obliged to attend , wiw 11 ' " tmipabla-violation of reliffioiiH liberty and freedom of conjrelenrco . TUcj PrQftbytoriann of Ireland were in favour of lUftftoproaont . Arrangement ; and bo could not ; ngroo that tho 1 ' rcHby ' teriaiiH wero not us good Proto . stnnt . s an any that arc to bo found in the country . No doubt , « ih Mr .

    1 1 uLUUUtli ill 114 . U 111 U 1 I * CJ III' | V |» Vi * A * j \_ ' 1- * y \/* . ft }\ s *\ J \ j \ - j 1 UJ m , *» + j I ' retender ' s legitiinato dodcendants are extinct . The words " on tho true faith of a Christian" are to be retained . —Lord Cami'BULL obncrved that tho oath na it now ntaiids is a disgrace to the Htatute-book . The judges have to take it ; and recently in administering it to Mr . Justico Willes , ho had to remonstrate with tho new judge for becoming dumb when ho came to that part relating to tho Pretender . Ilia learned brother said ho had abjured tho Pretender and his family in his heart , and therefore objected to repeat tho words ; but ho wan obliged to do ho , as tho ceremony would otherwise have been incomplete . —The Marquis of Clanricardk thought that tho bill would place that Ilouao in . a very painful antagonism -with tlio other House , imd , unleaa it were materially altered in committee , lie should , at fiorao future Htiigo , move its rejection . —Aftor hoiuo further brief diflciiSHion , tho bill wan read a second time . Tlio Houhu or Commons met at noon , wheu tho third reading of tho Nawaii ok Hurat Treaty Bill was moved by Sir Fitzroy Kislly . —Tlio motion waa opposed by . Sir . 1 . W . IIouo , and , after coiitudovublo diar ciiBuion , curried to n division , on which there

    appeared—Catliollc priests . Teaching the children to read" the Bible , without any comments or cxplanratioua , waa . not teaching religion ; indeed , if tluiro . was a book , that ought to be kept out of the school * , it . waa the lHble . ( f / ear , hear . ) Tom Thumb , or Jack . Urn Giant ^ Killw , would do juat as well . ( Great luughtar . ' ) The . proper way to fight the Roman Catholic pxi & sta ,, would b » . to double tho grant to Maynooth , and make it a . real , and effectual school . Alluding to Mr . Maguice ' t * obtterva * - tiona about Luther , Mr . Druxnmoud . retorted : —»' It ia useless to taunt ProteatautH withi ^ utlier having . tlon » -or ' said thiu or tlio ( jther ; iu > body in . bound to buliovo- i « Lutlior . But Catholiea one bound to . receive-tlje . doetrines of Liguori , becauoo th « Chujxh , lut »< said thafrltu never wrote a word that it * not ontitiud . to thegreatDrt , rospeot . " , Mr . Nicwubo-ate , ill supporting- tho bill , /» oou « od , iMr . , Drummoud of jiiconBinto « uy ^ and Huid lh « t h « ( 'Mr . NuwdegAto ) would notipnt a ^ hilUng iiito'lb « ilM « nid ^ 4 r a priesthood npiiointed by liuma , altliough I 10 was rMdy to vote money to the ltuinan CathcJus luity fop tUeil >» K > - poaoa ofcducutlon . — Mr . Bi ^ vnd , fc > iit Jon « 1 ' aiunoxon ,

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  • Leader (1850-1860), June 28, 1856, page 3, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_28061856/page/3/