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      The Object Of The Committee Was To Vote ...

      fluential member of this House , responded to , I hope by the unanimous feeling of the -whole House of Commons ( cheers ) , that , not only do we hope that the relations between England and France will be , but that vie almost think if common sense actuates those who , on both sides , hate the management of affairs—they must be , as far as human foresight can go , friendly towards each other ; that those mutual suspicions and reciprocal jealousies , which may from time to time have misled the calculations of those who » in each country , have had the manage ment of affairs , will disappear , and that mutual confidence will take the place of reciprocal distrust . { Hear , hear . ) Tie accepted it with , pleasure , as a holding out of the

      right hand of fellowship to other countries , and he agreed that there could not be a more appropriate season for such a demonstration . If he objected to be bound and fettered by a resolution in which he did not clearly see his way , it was not because he dissented from the end , but because he thought that end would be more accelerated by the language of Mr . Cobden and the sentiments manifested in that House , than by any formal and specific resolution . Upon these grounds he trusted Mr . Cobden would be satisfied with the reception his motion had experienced in the House , and with the concurrence of her Majesty's Government , which was influenced by an ardent desire to avert the

      calamities of war , and not press his motion to a division , which would be liable to misconstruction . This speech killed the debate . There could be no opposition to an oration so peaceful and conciliating and diplomatic . Mr . Roebuck said the noble lord had approved the end but rejected the means ; whereas the means were simple and practical . Mr . Mxlnbr Gibson asserted that the resolution merely asked the Foreign Secretary to act , with reference to the reduction of armaments , upon the same principle as that he had adopted in increasing them—namely , by opening a communication with France and making mutual reductions as we had made mutual augmentations .

      Several member * , though opposed b y Mr . Hume , recommended the withdrawal of the motion . Mr . Cobden consented to leave it in the hands of the Government . Lord Palmerston , feeling the full force of the responsibility that attached to statements mode by a Minister of the Crown , must request the House to understand correctly what it was he had said . He entirely concurred in the principle and objectof the honourable member ' s motion , which he conceived to be , not only the maintenance of peace with France ,

      but the inspiring of the two countries with that principle of mutual confidence that would best put an end to those jealousies that he considered the cause of certain results . What he objected to was , the particular method which he recommended as the mode of arriving at that result , viz ., to enter into negotiation with France . He begged therefore not to be understood as undertaking that the Government would enter into that negotiation , but be considered as perfectly free to use its discretion in all circumstances that might arise . ( Hear , hear . )

      The bill for the Suppression of Sunday Trading in the Metropolis was discussed on Wednesday . Mr . Roebuck led off the opposition in a lively and spirited speech , reducing the clauses successively " ad ab-Burdum . The provisions of the bill seemed only intended to make a farce of the subject . Mr . Si'ooneh thought the bill so defective , that he recommended Mr . Williams to withdraw it . Sir Wii > xiam Clay supported the bill , because he believed it would enlarge the comforts of the working classes . Mr . W . J . Fox thought there was no chance of

      carrying a real Sabbath bill , until Englishmen , whatever their creed might be , were content to cat cold dinners on Sunday . It seemed to him that the Beets for whom this bill had been introduced were the classes who loved the Sabbath much , but loved the whop more . ( Cheers . ) Sir Geokoe Ghey would like to pass the bill , but declared that there was not time , and he united with Mr . Spooner and Lord Robert Grosvenor in recommending ita withdrawal . Sir Bhnjamin Hall opposed it ; and Mr . T . S . Duncomiik raised a roar of laughter at the expense of Mr .

      WilliiimHlandlord necessary for the tenant to remove any buildings or fixtures he might have put up . The House resumed , and adjourned at five minutes to six o ' clock . The House of Commons met at twelve o'clock on Thursday , and passed the Smithfield Market Removal Bill another stage . Sir James Duke and Alderman Sidney , assisted by Mr . Stafford , resolutely opposed the proposition , that the House go into committee on the bill . Sir James Duke was astonished that the Government should press a measure which had only been adopted in the select committee by the casting vote of the chairman . The removal of the market would raise the price of meat to the consumer ,

      and inflict a great injury on the grazier and salesman ; besides which it would deprive the corporation of a privilege they had possessed for centuries . He moved that the House go into committee that day six months . Mr . Hvme complained that no site for the proposed new market had been named . Sir George Grey said that the bill contained a clause enabling the corporation to select a site , subject to his consent , and build a new market , within seven miles of St . Paul ' s ; it could not , therefore , be fairly said that the city were deprived of ancient privileges . The opposition was various . City arguments turned on tolls and violated charters ; agricultural arguments on the injury which would be

      inflicted upon graziers . Mr . Feetven askingwhether the interests of the farmers of Kent , Surrey , Sussex , Hampshire , and Dorset , ought not to be considered in this question?—Mr . Alderman Sidney said : —Government had of late years been gradually adopting the principle of centralization . They had done so in the case of the Poor Law and the police ; they had proposed to supply the metropolis with water ; they had become publishers of books ; and now they were anxious to distinguish themselves as purveyors of meat . He confessed he did not envy any future Government that took upon themselves all those onerous duties . ( Hear . ) When the House divided on the motion for going into committee there

      were— Ayes , 64 ; Noes , 26 . Majority , 38 . The House then went into committee on the bill ; and after three divisions on details , and one upon reporting progress , in all of which the defenders of Smithfield were beaten by two to one , the clauses and preamble were agreed to , the House resumed , and the sitting was suspended until six o ' clock ; when the House met again .

      The motion for the evening discussion was Mr . Heywood ' s resolution for a committee of the whole House , to consider , the tests in our Universities . Upon this motion the * ' count out" which was anticipated , actually took place . Mr . Heywood developed his proposition . He specified some of the tests he objected to . Subscription to the Thirtynine Articles , the compulsory chapel going , and the compulsory surplices , and sacraments four times a year , were among the most prominent . He advocated the removal of the existing tests , not merely on account of the community at large , who were not members of the Church of England , as Roman Catholics and Dissenters , but because he

      believed such a measure would be advantageous to the laity generally , and to the Church of England itself , and ho hoped the House would consent to go into committee on this subject . The motion was seconded by Mr . Ewaht , and the debate languished so much , that Lord John Russkli .. got up to state his view of the motion . He entered into a historical account of what had been done in Parliament about this question , and referred especially to a bill introduced by Mr . G . W . Wood a " good many years ago , " and supported by the present Lord Stanley . That bill provided for the admission of Dissenters to the University of Cambridge , and also permitted

      them to take degrees without signing the Thirty-nine Articles . That bill was based upon tho principle that Dissenters might be admitted to the honours , but not to the emoluments or any share in the government of the University , and a bill founded on that principle should have his cordiul support . But he was afraid the present motion went to the extent of admitting Dissenters to a share in the government , and that he could not consent to . Mr . Milnkh Guison was proceeding on nn attack upon tho compulsory subscription to the Thirty-nine Articles , when the House was counted out , having sat for an hour and a half . Out of the thirty-eight Members present , there were only eight of the Radical party .

      " He would ask the honourable member if he had not , some time ago , attended a meeting of 2000 persons , where some very rough questions hud been put to him about this measure , and where , after some discussion , he had confessed to these 2000 gentlemen that he really had not understood the bill previously us he understood it then ? ( Laughter . ) " Mr . Williams attempted to explain , but was not heard in the laughter and confusion which prevailed . " Mr . Duwcomiih : The honourable member hud been rather anxioua to get out of Cowper-street that night . ( A laugh . ) lie briu , with tlie honourable member for Marylebone , ' Confine your bill to Lambeth . ' Jle vvuh worry that the Lambeth people were bo uingular a race . " { Laughter . )

      The House divided on the question of going into committee , when there wore—For the committee , 42 ; against it , 77 . Majority againut , . ' !/> . After a Hhort discussion , the House Avent into committee on the Landlord and Tenunt Bill , and puaaed that measure a Btuge , inserting in the fourth clause words which rendered the previous consent of the

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      Of Ministers. He Showed That The Operati...

      of Ministers . He showed that the operation of the repeal had not been injurious ; that Belgium , Sweden , and Holland had followed our example without restrictions ; and IFrance and the United States with certain restrictions . Prom the latter country he thought we had obtained all we could reasonably expect in the way of reciprocity . Negotiations were still pending between Spain and Portugal and England , and there was reason to hope for a favourable issue . He pointed out that several eminent shipowners , opposed to the repeal , had increased their establishments since

      In the House of Lords , on Tuesday , Lord Stanley iriude a speech u propon of the presentation of a petition from Liverpool , complaining ; of the injurious operation of tho repeal of the Navigation Laws . Tho gist of tho long speech inmlo by the Protectionist louder was that , owing to the absence of reciprocal treaties between England and other nations , tho main of tho prolit derived from our increased foreign trade had ( j ; ono into the pocket of the foreigner . Alter we had granted them perfect reciprocity , . Spain , Franco , and the United States had met ua by regulations and restrictions inspired by anything rather than 11 spirit of reciprocity . Lord Ukanvill . 13 replied on the part

      repeal—notably Mr . Duncan , of Dunbar , and Mr . Wigram , of London . He opposed to the allegations of the Liverpool petitioners the fact that a smart rivalry had arisen between Liverpool and London owing to the plan adopted by Mr . Lindsay , another opponent of repeal , of building ships by contract in London , and transporting goods by the London and North-Western Railway from Liverpool to London . The House should recollect that all interests and classes occasionally indulged in the great privilege of grumbling , and he was convinced that the shipping interest laboured under no other difficulties than

      might be overcome by their own energy and perseverance . The discussion Avas continued by the Earl of Hardwick , who presented several petitions complaining of the repeal of the Navigation Laws ; and Earl Grey who defended the Ministerial policy . The petitions were ordered to lie on the table , and the House adjourned .

      Census Of Great Britain. The Following S...

      CENSUS OF GREAT BRITAIN . The following summary , just issued from the Censusoffice , shows the population and number of houses in Great Britain according to the last Census and that of 1841 : — ™ 3 < r-to © oo g at o > ao ©* r-<« « „•>» - < o op 2 't " v * - «* ° « J . g rt 105 t- ira So ten ¦*« S t ~ —f ' i * l 3 ° * ** % i 8 II . 5 . 1 i d i II 6 I I I I | S 1 1 H H ^ 5 ri —t — - " ^ CD M MOO ~* ** 01 > rt K" 21 S 5 £ o ut 5 o " c * & $ 'S * e $ « o "( o" 1—> £ * E » - < c 5 i— ¦ " * « o ( 5 r- r-r- » ©» 2 £ Cl SoO r-t CO 5 «> ®» . ™ ™ Ha © t ~«» I «» O , CO 00 1 I il ii | | | 11 §¦ % r , , _; — - " ^ oo . •>* c- » ; d hi ; -i to » "p S m < N S c « iJ p-i u , eo c ^ oO iO O < i > = v £ 2 c »© ao SS 2 § ? j * - - - ' w * S S fes I £ s 8 8 S 2 S 3 £ 8 = f § S 3 " 1 S SgS 2 S Pk oo ifiTci" " -h " , 5 eo ° * —' . g ? "h- i T T """~^~ r ~ 7 Tg ~ 7 ~ : g : : : " 5 : £ : : " - 5 3 s £ : : 3 3 | ;* ¦ : , § -5 I : % ¦ ' ¦ x S-S * : | : : . 53 t » : : : . 5 : 3 -g : - S § J 3 ^ 5 ! ° -- UN 3 - § S . S l > o |« g g . S 2 > o | £ J a w So ^ i - > o w ff j JS ^ Note . The Army in Great Britain , and the Navy , Merchant Seamen , and other persons on board Vessels in the Ports , are included in tho Return for 1851 ; the Navy , Merchant Seamen , and persons on board Vessels , were not included in 1841 . The apparent decrease of Houses in Scotland between 1841 and 18 ;> 1 is attributable to the fact that in 1841 flats or stories were reckoned in many pluces as " Houses "; in the present Census the more correct definition haa been employed .

      Church Matters. The Third Jubilee, Comme...

      CHURCH MATTERS . The third jubilee , commemorating tho incorporation of the Society for tho Propagation of the Gospel in . Foreign Parts , has been kept this week . The Society completed the one hundred and iiftieth year of it » existence on Monday , and a sermon was preached on the occasion by the Bishop of London , in Westminster Abbey . A public meeting at St . MurtinVlmll followed on Tuesday , when Prince Albert presided and made tho Bpeech of tho day . The platform wa « full of notabilities , and tho body of tho hull crowded to excess . The Arehbi-mops of Canterbury and Dublin , and the Bishops of London , ChicheMter , Worcester , St . Asaph , several foreign llvihopH , and a sprinkling of Cabinet Ministers and noblemen were present . After the Bishop of London had read prayers , Prince Albert opened the proceedings ot tho meeting . He said : ¦ — " Thin Hoeicty wan first chartered by that grcut man William III — ( c / uiers ) the greutOHt Sovereign tin * country has to bouHtof— ( loudcheers ) -by whose sagacity and energy was closed that bloody btriigKle for civil and reliirious liberty which had ho long been convulsing thia country and there were secured to ua the inestimable advuntagcB of our constitution and of our Protestant faith . ( Loud cheers . ) Huying time placed tho country

  • Citation
    • Leader (1850-1860), June 21, 1851, page 3, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_21061851/page/3/