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[ ndustrial Schools Bill , providing schools for young vagrants and other children who have made themselves amenable to the law . A good measure , but this , in common with all private bills , will stand suspended , if not thrctvmt back * by the general slectioii . Government has p laced itself in a contemptilfle position towards Slv John M'I & eiix and Colossi Tulxocit . At last it has beea . thought lit , tfca * Lord Pan ^ itjb-E slio ^ jflt acknwftedge the ser »« ws of those gentlemen on flic Crimean inquiry , which he has done , with an ample apology for not having
made the acknowledgment sooner than eighteen months after date . But even this tardy recognition ! is quite spoiled : Lord Paniiuke adds to acknowledgment and-thanks , 10001 .. for each of the Commissioners , as remuneration and token of the value of the services rendered , if so , replies Sir John M'Neii / l , 1000 / . must be considered token of the value and pecuniary equivalent ; so that rating the token of value at . 1000 / ., the equivalent of the service rendered is 0 . Sir John has returned the 1000 / ., being better pleased to be repaid with the public thanks , pure and simple . Colonel Tuixoch is understood to have done the same .
It is advantageous for Ministers that , just on tlfe point of the dissolution , intelligence has been received that the Persian difficulty is settled . A treaty has been signed by Feuouk . Khan , subject , however , to the reconsideration of the Shah . Austria has made a direct attack upon Sardinia , on . the pretext that the Piedmontese press attacks the Emperor and the institutions of Austria , misrepresenting the true royalty of the Lombardo-Venetians , and preaching regicide . Count . Cavoue
replies , that if the Lombardo-Venetian royalty is practically influenced by a press which the Austrian Government excludes trom its territories , what influeucc can that press exercise ? He represents that the press is free ; but that any party which is libelled , including any foreign Government , can appeal for justice in the Piedmontese courts . Piedmont , hi fact , declines to surrender her free press , because it is inconvenient to her despotic neighbour . Bat the press is only a pretext : Austria means mischief .
At home a new turn has been g iven to the emigration movement by a letter in the Times ^ from Mr . G . J . Holtoake . There is no man more intimately acquainted with the working classes than he is , no one who brings a more completely philosophic view to the consideration of their movements . lie suggests , in lieu of the emigration over the sea , the perils of which -we have pointed out , home colonization on the plan proposed by Rowiand Kill years ago . What is the plan ? Mr . Holyoake should republiah . it .
Once more , by the proceedings in the courts of justice and other public movements , the rampant fraud of Paris , "London , and New " York , is brought to light . We liavc it in many aspects . The repudiation by an American railway company of SciiuyjDBit's shares ; the Bank frauds of Sawam ) and his associates ; Hedpatii ' s frauds newly comment ed ; and the lloyal British Bauk , wliich is in a peculiar hobble . The depositors have , with the exception of a small minority , agreed to take 15 s . in the pound . at
^ Tightened unlimited liability , the shareholders have dispersed . Some of them who possess the power would make up Ihe fund for a compromise , if it woro accepted ; but at the meeting of depositors , thirteen depositors dissented , and it will require an Act oC Parliament to make the agreement of the majority binding on the minority . So that thedepoaitora of the lloyal British Bank who wisli their IBs . in tho pound , may go hunt for it at the geneual , oloetion .
lhe Great Northern . Directors publish their version of Rebirth's frauds . It seems that he was appointed , \\\ pursuance of ' savings / over the head ot au honest gentleman , on tho strouctU of his apparent' propriety . Tho Directors got a < cheap ^! ft ; i «{ " * tllc «» ult is , not only tfiat they Iobo 320 , 000 / —tho amount of tho false shoves which lie nuuxufuctiuca—but that the addition to the capital is counter o W , insomuch thatthev have no IS
aJZ A «? } %° \ ™ l > art ° tiluir capital \ v 1 - out an Act of- Parliament . —Ami so they toll tlio poor shareholder . * on the eve of u gencvnl eloc on frwopr * wiftctaoucd Uia comu-mncc
218 _ Fue Leadee. [Fo - 363, Saturday
218 _ fUE LEADEE . [ Fo - 363 , Saturday
' I1pekeal Parliament. • ¦ —¦—?—Monday, ...
' I 1 PEKEAL PARLIAMENT . ¦ —¦—?—Monday , March 2 nd . THE CHISSeE WAR . Im tB » Hoirae of Lomea ^ iia answer tar UforJ' © rby , Earl" GliANYrtLE said h & .-was able to state * . fromtlie intelligence received from China , that no furtherNopaiations had taken pltee , excepfc those rendered necessary , for self-diefence and the sscuia ^ y of their ships , Thft & iinese servants kadi been rscaJ & ti fxoa * Hong-Koo ^ and the CMnese Bard offered rew * rds foir the perpetration of acts of incendiarism and assassination in that colony . It
was impossible to say , therefore , that there was a termination of the -war , but at thet same time * these / was no interruption of theiir commercial relations "with the other four ports . Under those circumstances , it was impossUble there could be any change in the condition of Canton , because he believed it was absolutely necessary for the security of the lives and property , not only of British subjects , hut of foreigners of other nations , that they should not appear to recede , as dangerous results might follow , not only there , but in the other four ports , ¦ where our relations- are maintained on a . satisfactory basis . Reinforcements had been sent to Sir John Bo wring : one regiment went three weeks previously . THE EARX OF DERBY AJTD THE " PRESS " NEWSPAPER . The Earl of Derby , in reference to a report in the Press of last Saturday , said : — "I do not know , my lords , that I-ought to trouble you on a matter which is personal to myself , because it is one of the rules I have laid down for myself never to notice any misstatements or misrepresentations in the public press of any part of rny public conduct ; and if I depart from that rule on the present occasion * it is only from a sense of justice , not so much to myself as to others , that I feel it necessary to do so . I refer to a report in a public newspaper , ¦ which was wholly unauthorized , and which could only lave been surreptitiously obtained , of a meeting said to lave taken place at my house , which certainly did take place , but not at my house , and which , although it bears ' on the face of it marks of having been furnished by some person who was present , or . by some one-who leardwhat passed on that occasion , is grossly inaccurate , for it states not only what I did not say , but the reverse of what I said . , ' ¦ . ¦ - ¦// .:. ¦' ¦ : . : . ; . - . ,, _ .:. . ¦ After some formal business , their Lordships adjourned . NEW INDIA 2 T LOA 35 T . In the House of Commons , in . answer to Mr . Otway , Mr . Vernon Smith said that by ' the mail delivered that morning he had heard of the New Five per Cent . loan . It was for 3 , 000 , O 00 £ , limited to fifteen years , arid was applicable to general purposes . No instructions had been sent from the Home Government on the subject , and there had been no departure from the usual practice . " GUANO . air . Evelyn Denison wished to put a question to the Colonial Secretary respecting the guano islands on the coast of Africa . He wished to know whether any arrangement had been made with the Liverpool merchants , which , while securing to them full and fair powers for collecting , would give to English agriculturists the benefit of the supply of that useful article . —Mr . Labouciiere said that , since he last addressed the House on the subject , the merchants having tlie . exclusive license had been to him and stated their readiness to allow anybody to take guano upon p ' ayment of a royalty of XI . per ton .
CHINA . ADJOURNED DEBATE . The adjourned debate on Mr . Cobdon ' s motion was resumed by Mr . Robert Pjiilumoke , who disputed the validity of the Arrow ' s register , and denied that she carried an English flag at the timo of her being boarded . Sbo was not JEnglish in the sense of tho treaty , and , moreover , tho rules of that treaty were not laid down in accordance with international law . But , assuming that the English authorities were right in regard to the vessel , the logal course of procoodings was by reprisals , by seizing property in plcdgo , and not by so murderous an attack vipon a commercial community . Commissioner Ych had repeatedly disavowed any intention to affront the English flag ; consequently , there was no excuse for such cxtromo
measures-Sir Gkokcje Guey defended the Bishops in . tho cxerciso of an independent judgment ; accused Mr . Cobdon of . suppressing an important part of Mr . Cook ' letter , which ho had quoted in tho course of hia speech ; and pointed out that Dr . Bowing , who had boon appointed by tho Aberdeen Ministry , of which Lord John Russell and Siv James Graham wero members , had been denounced by his quondam colleagues , whilst it served their purpose to extol Admiral Soymour—the truth being that Admiral Seymour was an approving uartv to everything that had occurred . Members ought to decide tho question irrespective of visions of anew Government , and entirely upon its merits . —Mr . Pathioic IIoiikuthon , from personal experience , spoke of tho Chinese ns being n race of barbarians , and disputed the fluttering character given of them by Mr . Cobdon .
Sir John l ^ AiciNcmxN regratted that tlio floverntnent had not disavowed tlio aotu of its agents in China ; the doctrine that they ought invariably to bo supported at ull hazards being false- and bad . Even assuming tho
ltorcha twba , English , the revenge taken for the Chinese [ insult ; was-, excessive . Sir John Bowring , also , was com p romised ia another way . He had been clarged bV the Shanghai Chamber of Commerce with having de liberately misrepresented the instructions he had received from 1 he < Foreign Office , thereby obtaining the consent of the-imachants there to an arrangement to which thev would ! not otherwise have agreed . With regard t Admital Seymour , he thought he would have acted betta » hadj . ; he held a restraining hand , and not have a & Mffn hiouwlf " so ready and willing an agent of Sir John Btowrmg The latter evidently desired to get iZ
Canton ; . but it should he recollected that successive Go vernments bad distinctly forbidden the enforcement of our claim by arms without the consent of the home authorities . —Mr . Collieii opposed , the motion , believing that the . law was on the side of the Government If the House affirmed the resolution , it would amount to an admission that we had been in the wrong from the beginning ; the Chinese Government would be entitled to reparation , and would demand an abject apblc-y Bv negativing the resolution , the House would onfy affirm that , when a treaty is violated and the English flan : in suited , we are bound to exact redress and reparation
Sir Frederick Thesiger replied to the argument of the Attorney-General , who had contended that the question of the nationality of the lorcha depended not upon the ordinance , but upon the supplemental trea ' tyof 1843 . He ( Sir Frederick ) , on the contrary maintained from the very terms of the treaty , that it had nothing whatever to do with the question ; that the proposition of the Attorney-General ought to be reversed ; and that reliance must be placed upon the . ordinance , and not upon the treaty . A register granted under the colonial ordinance , itself of doubtful legality , could give no rWat
as against Chinese authority . Over and above the legal question , there was the question , of humanity . A few reprisals should have been sufficient to satisfy our honour . As it was , the papers before the House would remain a lasting monument of the bad faith of England . —Sir "William Williams ( of Kars ) thought that the insult offered to our flag was intentional , and observed , that the fertile source of the breach of treaties by Eastern nations was the fact of their disjoining themselves from the great family of mankind . "For this they rightly suffered ^ .
Mr . Siosey Herbert accepted the challenge to discuss the matter upon broad and general grounds . He would state shortly his opinion upon the question at issue . He agreed with Sir John Bowring that the lorcha was not an English vessel ; he agreed -with Mr . Kennedy that he was only the nominal master of the lorcha , and that she was owned by a Chinese ; . ' ho agreed with Mr . Brook , of the Board of Trade , that the ordinance was an illegal one ; he agreed -with Mr . Bridges , the Attorney-General at Hong-Kong , that the alleged English subjects were not English subjects at all ; he agreed with Mr . Parkes , that the retribution was more than the occasion required ; and he agreed with her Majesty ' s Attorney-General in the opinion that the law arguments upon the subject of the ordinance
brought forward by the Lord Advocate , the Home Secretary , and the Lord Chancellor , wero perfectly immaterial . ( Liaityhtei : ') Sir John Bowring , having got together a fleet , thought u circumstances were auspicious" for requiring the fulfilment of the article of the treaty stipulating for access to Canton , and , in spite of l'epeated prohibitions from home , demanded the immediate concession of a claim which had been suspended so many years . It had been said that all these transactions had had tho general concurrence of Sir Michael Seymour . But how was it obtained ? ' "By false pretences employed by Sir John Bowring , who had made a disingenuous use of despatches from home , and suppressed a portion of one which intimated that the Government was not disposed to go to war with the Chinese .
Mr . Serjeant Sh . ee contended that , if the doctrine laid down by the Earl of Derby and Lord Lyndhurst was to prevail , the treaty of 1842 , on which the colony of Hong-Kong was founded , and tho arrangements completed with China , would become a dead letter . Without going at any length into the merits of tho question , he referred to the Act of Parliament to show that amongst the persons considered to be English subjects are tho inhabitants of any territory" coded to her Maoaty . Thoroforo , to all intents and purposes , tho persons resident at Hong-K . ong ¦ woro to be considered English subjects , and consequently tho lorcha must bo considered' an English vessel , ( Cries of " JJirlth . '" ) On tho motion of Mr . IIoijndeli , Palmkii , the debate was adjournod , on tho un < lcrstanding that it . should he concluded on tho following night . tiik sAXAi ( ip orimr .
Mr . MuRuouan moved for returns connected with the opium trade in tho Presidency of Bengal , and tliu traffic with China during tho ycarrf 1855 and 18 . j ( J . He alluded to tho horrors of the opium trade , and uti ribntcil to it tho present dispute with Canton . —The motion vns agreed to . Tho LiGitTiNa ov Towns ( Ikki , ani >) A < t Amendment Bit < i , was read a third time , and paused , and iho llotiso ' shortly afterwards suljourned . Tuesday , March 3 rd . MATRIMONIAL AN 1 > ]> 1 VOIU ! K CAUHKfl R 1 IX . In tho Housis o * Loitos , tho Lom > Chahcicm-o k moved tho second reading of this bill . —Lord Lv . vu
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Leader (1850-1860), March 7, 1857, page 2, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_07031857/page/2/
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